Haven't seen Evan's 2018 GT bone stock A10 pass posted yet?

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Here's my spin on it. Anytime you are comparing your car to another you want to see how your car and your driving stack up against the competition. Two identical cars - except one with DR's and one on factory tires - is not a good comparison. Of course, the DR car will almost always 60' 2 or 3 tenths better with average track prep. That goes without saying. Call either car stock - fine - but just disclose any and all changes made to your car so the comparison makes sense.
 

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its a tire dude. it doesn't ADD any HP to ANYONES vehicle so therefore as far as POWER adders go or suspension goes it doesn't apply too either.

if one had a set of tires on their car that were not street legal then sure u may be able to make that argument but a street legal tire is simply a choice one makes as to whether or not they want a tire that makes their car handle better or bite better.

so if I have a stock car and buy a set of really expensive Z rated tires that handle really well at high speeds on the hi-way my car is now no longer stock?

Drag radials are mostly what makes your car not stock, but if you go from a Goodyear to a Michelin and pick up .3 seconds off your time then that is an upgrade. Any upgrade would indicate it's no longer stock. I dont see why that is so hard to define?

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its a tire dude. it doesn't ADD any HP to ANYONES vehicle so therefore as far as POWER adders go or suspension goes it doesn't apply too either.

if one had a set of tires on their car that were not street legal then sure u may be able to make that argument but a street legal tire is simply a choice one makes as to whether or not they want a tire that makes their car handle better or bite better.

so if I have a stock car and buy a set of really expensive Z rated tires that handle really well at high speeds on the hi-way my car is now no longer stock?

If tires don't matter then why doesn't everyone just run a cheap all season tire at the strip or track?
 

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A gutted car is still stock? I mean you are not adding power either.


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for the same reason one runs Snow tires in the winter. to get the best grip u can get for the current conditions.

so if I change my brake pads out and don't put OEM ones in cause I want to brake boost better does that mean my car is no longer stock now?

if its not a POWER ADDER or aftermarket SUSPENSION part and your motor is unopened and nothing added to it to make it breath better then your car is stock!

If tires don't matter then why doesn't everyone just run a cheap all season tire at the strip or track?
 

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Because they are retarded.



Brutal, didnt mean to clutter your thread but Evan is like the best Mustang driver, Hero runs is what he does. I forgot who GM has driving their Corvettes to do those hero runs as well. Minus the hero runs, what would be driver mod times for the '18 GT's?
No worries, I've known Evan since he was doing articles for Super Ford before he became editor of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. Yeah he's been a Very Good Gear Banger for decades. If you want a stellar timeslip he's the man you want behind the wheel.
 

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I'm an idiot because I don't want my toy to be something that I see 27 off on a daily basis? I'm allowed to buy what I like for reasons I want. I'm also happy being an idiot in your eyes then, sir. Good day.

I didn't say that people that buy them are wrong for doing so. You know I've owned several Mustangs & F-Bodies, right?
I have yet to see a 13/14 GT500 in my neck of the woods driving on the road NEVER. Would you consider them exclusive?
 

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its a tire dude. it doesn't ADD any HP to ANYONES vehicle so therefore as far as POWER adders go or suspension goes it doesn't apply too either.
But a full slick makes a big difference with a car like my 89GT back decades ago, no way i'm launching at 5K with a 175 shot on a summer radial, haha..
 

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for the same reason one runs Snow tires in the winter. to get the best grip u can get for the current conditions.

so if I change my brake pads out and don't put OEM ones in cause I want to brake boost better does that mean my car is no longer stock now?

if its not a POWER ADDER or aftermarket SUSPENSION part and your motor is unopened and nothing added to it to make it breath better then your car is stock!
If you are changing a component or components to improve your times at the given venue then how can you claim it is stock when stock means manufacture specs? If you change your brake pads and go out to your local racetrack and turn laps that are a second faster than when it had the stock pads then how is your car the same as when it rolled off the factory line? Even if you turn slower laps it is still not stock because you have changed the car to where it doesn't represent factory performance specs. How does that not make sense?

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Hope my warranty doesn't get voided on my 17 f150. Changed my oil to amsoil first oil change. Hands down best mod I've done. While I was at it I pulled my owners manual out of the glove box for weight savings. I wonder if Evan Smith ran that 11 with the owners manual still in the glove box?
 

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So jus to clarify I buy a brand new Corvette and decide I want better tires for extreme hi-way speeds and cornering and therefore drive immediately over to Firestone and buy the best rated Z street legal tires I can find (for ALL (4) wheels not just the back (2)) to help me corner better at high speeds and THAT means my car is no longer stock?

BUT...... if I put (2) Drag Radial street legal tires in the rear then my car is definitely NOT stock. BOTH tires will improve the performance of the vehicle.

Tires that bite make my car no longer stock but Tires that corner do? Do I have that correct?

If you are changing a component or components to improve your times at the given venue then how can you claim it is stock when stock means manufacture specs? If you change your brake pads and go out to your local racetrack and turn laps that are a second faster than when it had the stock pads then how is your car the same as when it rolled off the factory line? Even if you turn slower laps it is still not stock because you have changed the car to where it doesn't represent factory performance specs. How does that not make sense?

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But a full slick makes a big difference with a car like my 89GT back decades ago, no way i'm launching at 5K with a 175 shot on a summer radial, haha..
 

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So jus to clarify I buy a brand new Corvette and decide I want better tires for extreme hi-way speeds and cornering and therefore drive immediately over to Firestone and buy the best rated Z street legal tires I can find (for ALL (4) wheels not just the back (2)) to help me corner better at high speeds and THAT means my car is no longer stock?

BUT...... if I put (2) Drag Radial street legal tires in the rear then my car is definitely NOT stock. BOTH tires will improve the performance of the vehicle.

Tires that bite make my car no longer stock but Tires that corner do? Do I have that correct?
Think about your first question and if someone came up to you at a gas station or wherever, they say "Nice Corvette, any mods done to it?, you would honestly tell them the car is stock knowing you already swapped the tires? Sometimes just to see how people respond I ask them the same thing, "any mods done?" and I see they're rolling in on R888's, I know they are full of shit.

In your scenario, because the tires were swapped, the car is no longer stock.
 

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