Impressive. That is a driver's race with my CTSV. Weight and gearing, I guess.
Drag radials are mostly what makes your car not stock, but if you go from a Goodyear to a Michelin and pick up .3 seconds off your time then that is an upgrade. Any upgrade would indicate it's no longer stock. I dont see why that is so hard to define?
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its a tire dude. it doesn't ADD any HP to ANYONES vehicle so therefore as far as POWER adders go or suspension goes it doesn't apply too either.
if one had a set of tires on their car that were not street legal then sure u may be able to make that argument but a street legal tire is simply a choice one makes as to whether or not they want a tire that makes their car handle better or bite better.
so if I have a stock car and buy a set of really expensive Z rated tires that handle really well at high speeds on the hi-way my car is now no longer stock?
If tires don't matter then why doesn't everyone just run a cheap all season tire at the strip or track?
No worries, I've known Evan since he was doing articles for Super Ford before he became editor of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. Yeah he's been a Very Good Gear Banger for decades. If you want a stellar timeslip he's the man you want behind the wheel.Because they are retarded.
Brutal, didnt mean to clutter your thread but Evan is like the best Mustang driver, Hero runs is what he does. I forgot who GM has driving their Corvettes to do those hero runs as well. Minus the hero runs, what would be driver mod times for the '18 GT's?
I have yet to see a 13/14 GT500 in my neck of the woods driving on the road NEVER. Would you consider them exclusive?I'm an idiot because I don't want my toy to be something that I see 27 off on a daily basis? I'm allowed to buy what I like for reasons I want. I'm also happy being an idiot in your eyes then, sir. Good day.
I didn't say that people that buy them are wrong for doing so. You know I've owned several Mustangs & F-Bodies, right?
TRUE STOCK is what it was born with as it sits in the dealership parking lot.What's stock is like arguing over what's a street car and what's a race car. There is a very slim chance you are going to change someone's opinion.
But a full slick makes a big difference with a car like my 89GT back decades ago, no way i'm launching at 5K with a 175 shot on a summer radial, haha..its a tire dude. it doesn't ADD any HP to ANYONES vehicle so therefore as far as POWER adders go or suspension goes it doesn't apply too either.
If you consider yourself full of shit stock, then yes.So if I take a shit before a run to save a few pounds and pick up .001 seconds, am I no longer stock?
If you are changing a component or components to improve your times at the given venue then how can you claim it is stock when stock means manufacture specs? If you change your brake pads and go out to your local racetrack and turn laps that are a second faster than when it had the stock pads then how is your car the same as when it rolled off the factory line? Even if you turn slower laps it is still not stock because you have changed the car to where it doesn't represent factory performance specs. How does that not make sense?for the same reason one runs Snow tires in the winter. to get the best grip u can get for the current conditions.
so if I change my brake pads out and don't put OEM ones in cause I want to brake boost better does that mean my car is no longer stock now?
if its not a POWER ADDER or aftermarket SUSPENSION part and your motor is unopened and nothing added to it to make it breath better then your car is stock!
Exclusive? No, but I never used the word exclusive. However, I see FAR less GT500s vs GTs. I would consider owning a GT500.I have yet to see a 13/14 GT500 in my neck of the woods driving on the road NEVER. Would you consider them exclusive?
No, it's not.A gutted car is still stock? I mean you are not adding power either.
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I agree but look how many people dont believe that or do and just are trolling saying they dont. So my opinion stays as is.TRUE STOCK is what it was born with as it sits in the dealership parking lot.
If you are changing a component or components to improve your times at the given venue then how can you claim it is stock when stock means manufacture specs? If you change your brake pads and go out to your local racetrack and turn laps that are a second faster than when it had the stock pads then how is your car the same as when it rolled off the factory line? Even if you turn slower laps it is still not stock because you have changed the car to where it doesn't represent factory performance specs. How does that not make sense?
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But a full slick makes a big difference with a car like my 89GT back decades ago, no way i'm launching at 5K with a 175 shot on a summer radial, haha..
Think about your first question and if someone came up to you at a gas station or wherever, they say "Nice Corvette, any mods done to it?, you would honestly tell them the car is stock knowing you already swapped the tires? Sometimes just to see how people respond I ask them the same thing, "any mods done?" and I see they're rolling in on R888's, I know they are full of shit.So jus to clarify I buy a brand new Corvette and decide I want better tires for extreme hi-way speeds and cornering and therefore drive immediately over to Firestone and buy the best rated Z street legal tires I can find (for ALL (4) wheels not just the back (2)) to help me corner better at high speeds and THAT means my car is no longer stock?
BUT...... if I put (2) Drag Radial street legal tires in the rear then my car is definitely NOT stock. BOTH tires will improve the performance of the vehicle.
Tires that bite make my car no longer stock but Tires that corner do? Do I have that correct?