I have a moral dilemma with leaving my job..

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Congrats! I'd put in a call to honda accepting the job, but then briefly explain how you'd prefer to give slightly more advanced notice to nissan if possible, see what the options are.
Be careful with this though; dont send the wrong message.

Dont give yoourself enough rope to hang yourself.

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Brother, as a tech in the trenches on the daily, go to Honda. Now, understand, if they have such a big hard on about you getting in there right the hell now and damn giving notice to your current employer, go in eyes WIDE open.

Im not saying it wont be better, but Im not saying it couldn't be worse. Its 100% possible their balls are in the vice for CSI and they need someone experience to get in there and handle the work volume coming through the service drive. Then again that could be because they have a revolving door themselves.

Work for the brand and for the customer. Your relationship with the dealer will fall in line. Unless its a Van Tuyl (Berkshire Hathaway) dealer. Then youre just ****ed man... lol
I hear you. Sounds like they have to much work and not enough advisors. He quoted saying “the only reason advisors leave this dealer is because they are going to be a service manager some where else”
 

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My father used to manage an hourly shop after he retired from the USMC. Often employees would cry about “oh that’s not fair, I’ve been here 20 years, blah blah blah”.

He would just calmly say, “you know that pay check you get? Every time you get one, we are even. The company don’t owe you and you don’t owe company”.


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So I’ve been at a Nissan dealer for 4 years and I’ve been commuting 60 miles each way. This dealership trained me and I love the people I work with. But I want to leave so I am closer to home and I am getting heavily underpaid and havnt had a raise in the 4 years I’ve been there. So, I posted my resume online and got a call from a local Honda dealer. Had the interview today and they offered me the job. My schedule is virtually the same but my pay will be more than double what I’m getting now. I took the job and said I’ll give my two week notice to my current employer. The GM said “I admire you want to put in your two weeks but we need you by Friday” so 2 days notice instead of 2 weeks. Is it wrong that I’m not giving any notice? Should I not take the job because of this? My issue is that I feel like I owe them cause they trained me. But, on the other hand I’m getting dog shit for pay. And they just fired a good advisor for no reason at all and didn’t give him any warning. So I feel like I should return the favor and not care that I don’t give notice. What does SVTP think?
Is it a herb Chambers dealership? My buddy work at one of his dealers and was walked out the door when he gave notice (as he had expected).
 

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congrats on the new offer- sounds great all around.

however, i would be very wary of this new dealership expecting you to screw over your current employer and jump ship to be with them in 2 days. it's a honda dealership, not some otherworldly opportunity. double the pay raise? i do not know what you are making now but to be in the same industry at essentially a similar role and in a similar geographic location sounds a bit odd to me that there would be that much disparity in compensation levels.

i hope everything works out for you.

just because they trained you does not mean you have to stay with them forever- you are entitled to more money and a better work/life balance if that is what you want. remember they trained you to be a better employee for them, not so you could be a better employee for someone else- as such, you do not owe them anything and you deserve to be fairly compensated. just make sure this new opportunity is all it is cracked up to be- hopefully they are not selling you a bill of goods. this is one of those times i would wish i had a crystal ball so i could see what will happen a few days/weeks/months from now so i knew whether to take the new job.

good luck!
 

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Talk to your current employer about a raise, matching what Honda is going to give you. Give them a chance to make it right at least.
If they you pound sand,...tell them Friday is your last day. Don't say anything else about having another job or going to Honda. Just leave it at that.
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I was a head hunter for 25 years. The only reason to give two weeks notice is a courtesy to the current employer as that is what has been expected in the past. There is no morality issue. It is simply business. If their times got tough, you would be expendable.

In this case, you already have the job and don't need the reference, and as has been stated above they have treated you less than fairly in your compensation over these years, which is the only reason we get up and go to work.

I'd say, "So long, and thanks for all the fish, but I'm outta here".
 
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congrats on the new offer- sounds great all around.

however, i would be very wary of this new dealership expecting you to screw over your current employer and jump ship to be with them in 2 days. it's a honda dealership, not some otherworldly opportunity. double the pay raise? i do not know what you are making now but to be in the same industry at essentially a similar role and in a similar geographic location sounds a bit odd to me that there would be that much disparity in compensation levels.

i hope everything works out for you.

just because they trained you does not mean you have to stay with them forever- you are entitled to more money and a better work/life balance if that is what you want. remember they trained you to be a better employee for them, not so you could be a better employee for someone else- as such, you do not owe them anything and you deserve to be fairly compensated. just make sure this new opportunity is all it is cracked up to be- hopefully they are not selling you a bill of goods. this is one of those times i would wish i had a crystal ball so i could see what will happen a few days/weeks/months from now so i knew whether to take the new job.

good luck!
Best year was 51k. Average 43k. I saw the numbers. The top advisor at this dealer has done 120k. GM said 75k garenteed and if you sell well there’s no reason why I shouldn’t do 90k. From doing my own research Honda has always paid advisors well no matter where you are in the country.
 

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From my experience, Honda owners that buy new tend to want the best to make sure their car/van/SUV is always Honda reliable. Nissan... yeah not so much.

The CSP's alone should bring you a shit load of business. Honda wants to bend over backwards for customer satisfaction, let em. More ROs for you :D
 

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Talk to your current employer about a raise, matching what Honda is going to give you. Give them a chance to make it right at least.
If they you pound sand,...tell them Friday is your last day. Don't say anything else about having another job or going to Honda. Just leave it at that.
Good luck man!!

Why? Say they offer to pay him the same. Then he has two offers that pay the same, one of which is much closer, and affords him more family time. Which one is he going to take? Duh!

They had their chance over the last 4 years.
 

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If your area is anything like mine, you can get a job turning wrenches at any shop. It seems like it's a dying trade. Every shop in my small (10k population) town is needing help and no one seems to want to do it anymore. I say go for it. I went through that at the last ford dealer I worked at. I left for another job and the grass wasn't any greener there. I stayed about 1 1/2 months and came back to that original dealer. The next time I put a notice in, they told me I could go ahead and leave the next day. But it worked out better, because I've been at this independent shop for 6 years now and make a good bit more.....although I'm miserable and burnt out on it all now and want a completely different trade. lol
 

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Why? Say they offer to pay him the same. Then he has two offers that pay the same, one of which is much closer, and affords him more family time. Which one is he going to take? Duh!
They had their chance over the last 4 years.
Just LOL.
Duh,.............doesn't he already have a standing career with the current employer? If they're willing to pay him the same, he gets to stay where he's at and work with his buddies and get paid. Yeah, the drive is shorter with the Honda job, but at least here, he has job security, good pay and continues to work with the system/work flow that he knows and the buddies that he knows.
Just duhhh,......lol
 

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This is a no-brainer. Move on. Give handshakes or hugs to your co-workers and explain your reasons for moving on. Your employer should understand. If not, then they aren’t worth staying for...even for similar pay. If you handle this the right way nobody at your current employer will have anything but good things to say about you.

I have left employers who wanted me to stay. One in particular where I was the Controller had no business sense. They told all employees of a “temporary” 3-month 10% pay cut during tough times when I knew full well the cuts would be for 6-12 months or longer , and wouldn’t take any advice I offered regarding their lax collection policies. I met with the President and told him I was leaving in 2 weeks...and that I’d come into the office after hours (for a fair hourly rate) to train a replacement manager evenings until they were comfortable in my old role. The Pres leaned back in his big chair and whipped his eyeglasses across the room. I knew then my decision was the right one. I ended up having a meeting later with the VP and we worked out a fair deal for me to train my successor.

So my point is...look out for yourself and move on...just do it the right way. Good luck buddy.
 
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Just LOL.
Duh,.............doesn't he already have a standing career with the current employer? If they're willing to pay him the same, he gets to stay where he's at and work with his buddies and get paid. Yeah, the drive is shorter with the Honda job, but at least here, he has job security, good pay and continues to work with the system/work flow that he knows and the buddies that he knows.
Just duhhh,......lol
he doesn't have job security, it doesn't exist. and his current job will look on this down the road, and hold it against him in evaluations. and he doesn't have "good pay" because a significant portion of it goes to gas and travel time.
 

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he doesn't have job security, it doesn't exist. and his current job will look on this down the road, and hold it against him in evaluations. and he doesn't have "good pay" because a significant portion of it goes to gas and travel time.
Actually, it does exist. He's been there 4 years already. I've been at my current job at over 7 years already.
He's going to have to weigh out the options between travel time/gas/job security.
 

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If your area is anything like mine, you can get a job turning wrenches at any shop. It seems like it's a dying trade. Every shop in my small (10k population) town is needing help and no one seems to want to do it anymore. I say go for it. I went through that at the last ford dealer I worked at. I left for another job and the grass wasn't any greener there. I stayed about 1 1/2 months and came back to that original dealer. The next time I put a notice in, they told me I could go ahead and leave the next day. But it worked out better, because I've been at this independent shop for 6 years now and make a good bit more.....although I'm miserable and burnt out on it all now and want a completely different trade. lol
I’m an advisor, not a tech. Use to turn wrenches. Got old quick for me.
 

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So I’ve been at a Nissan dealer for 4 years and I’ve been commuting 60 miles each way. This dealership trained me and I love the people I work with. But I want to leave so I am closer to home and I am getting heavily underpaid
I stopped reading right there.

time to go. no hard feelings, only cash pays the bills
 

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I was a head hunter for 25 years. The only reason to give two weeks notice is a courtesy to the current employer as that is what has been expected in the past. There is no morality issue. It is simply business. If their times got tough, you would be expendable.

In this case, you already have the job and don't need the reference, and as has been stated above they have treated you less than fairly in your compensation over these years, which is the only reason we get up and go to work.

I'd say, "So long, and thanks for all the fish, but I'm outta here".
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Is it a herb Chambers dealership? My buddy work at one of his dealers and was walked out the door when he gave notice (as he had expected).
Thankfully not. My co worker who has been advising at this Nissan for 15 years has taken 5 pay cuts. I ask him why he doesn’t leave he says his only other option is herb chambers and he refuses to work for him.
 

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