LOOKBACK: Eddie THE BEAST predicts WSM win after 500kg Deadlift

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It is amazing what the strongman competitors put their bodies through. They eat a ton of food and of course use boat loads of drugs but even then they still have to put the hard work in.

Eddie gave good advice about benching. He said never pyramid down once you've reached your heaviest set. Stop at the top because your muscle has memory and if you pyramid down to a lower weight for more reps at the end your muscles will remember the lower weight, not the heavier set you did earlier. I've been following this advice and can see my bench going up little by little.

 

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Eddie is of course also great with bench pressing. He probably could have taken the raw world record if he had focused on it. He is retired now and losing weight but still training heavy so you never know.

 

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I watched his Netflix documentary and the dude is a f'ing beast!
I'll have to watch it. The deadlift world record was broken 4 times by different men in the 2016 contest where Hall lifted 500 kg! That was an epic match!

In 2016, Hall became a world record holder for being the first man to deadlift 500kg. The impressive feat took a serious physical toll, he tells Euronews.

“I woke up in a massive pool of blood,” he recalls. “I had blood coming out of my nose, my tear ducts, my ears.”

Hall goes on to say that he remembers paramedics having to race to the scene to assist him. The athlete’s doctors told him that blood vessels in his brain had burst during the lift.

“My heart rate was through the roof, my blood pressure was unreadable,” he says. “I couldn’t see, I lost my vision for a few hours and for about two weeks I forgot my kids’ names”.

 
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I'd say he came pretty close to death, there. That nose bleed is a gigantic freaking warning sign. Bet that's getting close to what the human vascular system can take before it lets go. And if it does, there won't be any sewing it back up before death, I'd bet. If it's the grand aorta, or something in the skull, game over. Might even be worse if it is a vessel in the brain, because the sudden hydraulic ram pressure overload would pulp the brain in an instant.
 

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I'd say he came pretty close to death, there. That nose bleed is a gigantic freaking warning sign. Bet that's getting close to what the human vascular system can take before it lets go. And if it does, there won't be any sewing it back up before death, I'd bet. If it's the grand aorta, or something in the skull, game over. Might even be worse if it is a vessel in the brain, because the sudden hydraulic ram pressure overload would pulp the brain in an instant.
Those guys are too strong and tough to let a little thing like a broken vascular system take them out.
 

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Yea, that series on him and others was a great watch.

Mix of determination and insanity for what they put their bodies through.
 

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Dude is a beast for sure. Though I don’t agree about the moving down in weight and it directly hindering the muscles ability to again mitigate a heavy load. However I will say depending on what your routine outlines, if you were doing heavy sets you shouldn’t be leaving room to exhaust down like that on bench. Do accessory work at the back end of the routine if that’s what’s wanted.

Anyway enough rambling, these top tier power lifters are very impressive with what they accomplish and the lifestyle and work load they mitigate to do so.
 

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Dude is a beast for sure. Though I don’t agree about the moving down in weight and it directly hindering the muscles ability to again mitigate a heavy load. However I will say depending on what your routine outlines, if you were doing heavy sets you shouldn’t be leaving room to exhaust down like that on bench. Do accessory work at the back end of the routine if that’s what’s wanted.

Anyway enough rambling, these top tier power lifters are very impressive with what they accomplish and the lifestyle and work load they mitigate to do so.
I trained with powerlifters for a year when I was around 25. They followed Louis Simmons' program at the time. Most workouts consisted of light sets and reps (60% of max) for benchpress, deadlift and squat. I don't recall the exact schedule but every third or fourth workout would be a test of your max 1 rep for all three. They would also do lat pulldowns, skull crushers, bicep curls etc. at the end.

I was frustrated with the way they trained because I wanted more muscle development and their method added strength but they were not going to build a good looking physique that way. So I went back to bodybuilding style, doing 8 reps or more per set and going as heavy as I could every time. And I would do drop sets - building up to the heaviest I could handle for 6-8 reps. Then dropping the weight, another 8 reps etc. Or I would do pre-exhaustion - for example tricep pushdowns followed immediately by tricep style benchpress. Or cable flyes followed by benchpress without rest between sets.

So now I am training different. I pyramid up with 8-16 reps per set. The reps for the heavier sets are reduced to 4, 3, 2 and finally 1. Once I reach my 1 rep max in bench press for example I stop and am done with that exercise for the day. I don't drop the weight and rep out 8 more since I did my higher reps with lighter weight as a warmup.
 

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To crush your enemies.......

I did pendaly rows today for back.
Nice! I haven't done those in many years. I started deadlifts again and a few weeks ago pulled my back with a light 135 lbs warmup set by coming up too fast. I am now doing more back stretches, good mornings, hyperextensions and situps to stengthen my core and will gradually try the deadlift again with a trap bar. I can still go heavy with leg press. Stopped traditional squats years ago.
 

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Eddie and Brian Shaw are hilarious together! They constantly give each other a hard time about showing up late for a training session or event.

 

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I trained with powerlifters for a year when I was around 25. They followed Louis Simmons' program at the time. Most workouts consisted of light sets and reps (60% of max) for benchpress, deadlift and squat. I don't recall the exact schedule but every third or fourth workout would be a test of your max 1 rep for all three. They would also do lat pulldowns, skull crushers, bicep curls etc. at the end.

I was frustrated with the way they trained because I wanted more muscle development and their method added strength but they were not going to build a good looking physique that way. So I went back to bodybuilding style, doing 8 reps or more per set and going as heavy as I could every time. And I would do drop sets - building up to the heaviest I could handle for 6-8 reps. Then dropping the weight, another 8 reps etc. Or I would do pre-exhaustion - for example tricep pushdowns followed immediately by tricep style benchpress. Or cable flyes followed by benchpress without rest between sets.

So now I am training different. I pyramid up with 8-16 reps per set. The reps for the heavier sets are reduced to 4, 3, 2 and finally 1. Once I reach my 1 rep max in bench press for example I stop and am done with that exercise for the day. I don't drop the weight and rep out 8 more since I did my higher reps with lighter weight as a warmup.

Most the body building lifting I do incorporates a mix of heavy sets and hypertrophy based lifting with reload weeks every 10 weeks.

There is defiantly two different styles of lifting in body building vs power lifting, or maybe not different more so as focused to target different goals. There is however still a lot of cross over between the two.

I personally try not to pyramid up too much, I prefer to get into my heavier working sets a soon as possible on days that cal for lower rep range as I don’t want to utilize any more strength then needed for warming up.
 

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Most the body building lifting I do incorporates a mix of heavy sets and hypertrophy based lifting with reload weeks every 10 weeks.

There is defiantly two different styles of lifting in body building vs power lifting, or maybe not different more so as focused to target different goals. There is however still a lot of cross over between the two.

I personally try not to pyramid up too much, I prefer to get into my heavier working sets a soon as possible on days that cal for lower rep range as I don’t want to utilize any more strength then needed for warming up.
I did shoulder presses tonight. What do you think of this routine?

Sets 1-3 were warmup sets. I wore elbow supports and a lifting belt starting with Set 4 and added Inzer elbow sleeves for Sets 5-7 over the elbow supports. I am not exactly getting younger and have to protect my elbows these days. I want to go beyond 315 lbs with shoulder presses perhaps up to 365 lbs. It would be nice to achieve 8 reps with 315 lbs. The elbow sleeves make a huge difference for shoulder and bench presses.

Set 1: 95 lbs x 12 reps
Set 2: 135 lbs x 8 reps
Set 3: 185 lbs x 8 reps
Set 4: 225 lbs x 8 reps
Set 5: 275 lbs x 6 reps
Set 6: 295 lbs x 3 reps
Set 7: 315 lbs x 1 rep

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I did shoulder presses tonight. What do you think of this routine?

Sets 1-3 were warmup sets. I wore elbow supports and a lifting belt starting with Set 4 and added Inzer elbow sleeves for Sets 5-7 over the elbow supports. I am not exactly getting younger and have to protect my elbows these days. I want to go beyond 315 lbs with shoulder presses perhaps up to 365 lbs. It would be nice to achieve 8 reps with 315 lbs. The elbow sleeves make a huge difference for shoulder and bench presses.

Set 1: 95 lbs x 12 reps
Set 2: 135 lbs x 8 reps
Set 3: 185 lbs x 8 reps
Set 4: 225 lbs x 8 reps
Set 5: 275 lbs x 6 reps
Set 6: 295 lbs x 3 reps
Set 7: 315 lbs x 1 rep

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Personally I would drop the third and fourth warm up set. My normal OHP looks like this

Standing OHP
Set 1- warm up with 95 for 8-10 reps
Set 2- light working set 135 x 5-6 reps
Set 3- working set 185 x 3-5 reps
Set 4- working set 225 x 3-5reps
Set 5- working set 245 x 3-5 reps

Then I roll into the rest of my work out with no more warm up sets on any of the lifts. The rest of my shoulder day is-

Seated press 5 sets x 8-12 reps each preferably with dumbbells but I’ll also utilize a straight bar set up of the gym has it

Bradford bar press 5 sets max rep each set with just the bar or light light weight added on the top two sets

Low pulley face pulls 4 sets at 8-12 reps one last set max rep range

Reverse cable cross over 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep range

DB last raise 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep with a drop set

Shrugs 4 sets 10-15 reps one last set max rep with a drop set.

This is generally a lot more volume which works great for me as I suffer from rotator cuff issues and collarbone pain from previous accidents or injuries over the years.

I would say if the supports help you then utilize them but also make sure you do plenty of accessory work to build the smaller groups in the shoulder area. The weight you’re moving is damn impressive, I’ve yet to cross the 300 mark on my shoulder press. I’ve been out of the gym for the better part of the last year and am just getting back into it so it’ll be interesting to see how quickly I get back to those previous numbers.
 

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Phhsshh. This is nothing. I thought everyone one on svtp can deadlift a semi full of dead hookers.


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Dude is a beast for sure. Though I don’t agree about the moving down in weight and it directly hindering the muscles ability to again mitigate a heavy load. However I will say depending on what your routine outlines, if you were doing heavy sets you shouldn’t be leaving room to exhaust down like that on bench. Do accessory work at the back end of the routine if that’s what’s wanted.

Anyway enough rambling, these top tier power lifters are very impressive with what they accomplish and the lifestyle and work load they mitigate to do so.

I totally agree with not dropping weight for powerlifting. I’m not trying to argue with you.

Nice! I haven't done those in many years. I started deadlifts again and a few weeks ago pulled my back with a light 135 lbs warmup set by coming up too fast. I am now doing more back stretches, good mornings, hyperextensions and situps to stengthen my core and will gradually try the deadlift again with a trap bar. I can still go heavy with leg press. Stopped traditional squats years ago.
Weighted hypertension’s. 3 sets 10 reps every back workout.
I’m sorry though I hate giving weight training advice over the internet. In person I can help anyone.

Most the body building lifting I do incorporates a mix of heavy sets and hypertrophy based lifting with reload weeks every 10 weeks.

There is defiantly two different styles of lifting in body building vs power lifting, or maybe not different more so as focused to target different goals. There is however still a lot of cross over between the two.

I personally try not to pyramid up too much, I prefer to get into my heavier working sets a soon as possible on days that cal for lower rep range as I don’t want to utilize any more strength then needed for warming up.
I agree. They are two very different sports.
 

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