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You treed me. The GS vette is faster than the goofy ass GT350.
C8 will murder the gt350 AND the 500 on a road course.
Im quite certain the CF TP will beat the C8z51, im just also quite certain the base 500 will be bigly behind. That tire difference alone is probably an average of 2 seconds and then we all know that GT4 wing is going to be massive as well. A Z1LE will handily beat a base 500 with no sweat.
Do you know what tire you are getting on the handling pack? Maybe cup 2 is optional?
True.
I, however, am comparing base c8 to base 500. In which case the c8 should easily hand the 500 its ass.
A carbon track pack 500? Nope... that thing will definitely perform on track.
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I don't believe that either the Base, Handling Package, or the CF TP, offer an option choice in terms of tire. Base - 4S, Handling Package - Cup2, CF TP - Cup2. Now IIRC, the compound is different between the Handling Package and CF TP Cup2's.
Really doubt I will be lol ill bet all the rumors and things people are hearing are re-CFTPYou'll be pleasantly surprised.
Power, weight, brakes, aero, tires, track, temps... that's a lot of variables to guesstimate. In my simple brain it's all too close to call, but I'll take a swag.
A base C8 has some pretty lame brakes and no electronic limited slip diff, detuned DCT, and a few less HP...
I guess the CFTP GT500 beats a base C8, not by much, and in general prolly not a well driven z51. GT500 CFTP also beats ZL1 1LE, but barely.
I still give me and my GT350R a good shot at most base GT500's and base C8's, and anyone not bringing good game in a z51. I'll only yield to the CFTP GT500 on the straights, and then they better have a pair to slow that beast down for turn entry if they want to keep it.
I also know a corn fed GT500 will be a lot of fun to scoot around town in.
A base C8 has some pretty lame brakes and no electronic limited slip diff, detuned DCT, and a few less HP...
I guess the CFTP GT500 beats a base C8, not by much, and in general prolly not a well driven z51. GT500 CFTP also beats ZL1 1LE, but barely.
I still give me and my GT350R a good shot at most base GT500's and base C8's, and anyone not bringing good game in a z51. I'll only yield to the CFTP GT500 on the straights, and then they better have a pair to slow that beast down for turn entry if they want to keep it.
I also know a corn fed GT500 will be a lot of fun to scoot around town in.
sooooo, the answer is no. you guys saying the gt500 will get murdered cant think of 3 cars that you feel are comparable to the C8's?
i asked for relevency to form your basis off of. you DONT know what a GT500 will do , nor a C8, so i wanted to gather where you feel a C8 will lap, since its guaranteed to be faster than a base GT500 somehow, based off a dry weight and 0-60
i asked for relevency to form your basis off of. you DONT know what a GT500 will do , nor a C8, so i wanted to gather where you feel a C8 will lap, since its guaranteed to be faster than a base GT500 somehow, based off a dry weight and 0-60
I never said murdered... In terms of driving dynamics and lap times, C8 z51 will be similar to a GT3. C8 is ~300lbs heavier and 5hp less with a rear weight bias, so it should be a little slower than a GT3 but comparable. Keep in mind however the 0-60 time of the GT3 is 3.4s and the C8 is <3s and even beats GT3 RS (3.0s) which I don't understand...
When I'm driving my GT350R, I love passing GT3's, and pass most of them, makes me feel like a good driver... but put a good driver in a GT3 and I am astonished at how quickly they can leave me, I guess it's because I have a slow car ;-) and I believe Randy Pobst driving them back to back would be a little quicker in the GT3. My opinion is they are capable of very similar lap times, but the GT3 is also easier to post repeatable fast laps in due to better braking dynamics and lighter weight, it doesn't require as much driver effort so little mistakes are more easily avoided and over many laps makes a big difference.
Clearly GT500 will have a lot of fun with GT3 and GT3 RS too, but watch out bc Porsches are easy to drive fast, and driven well they are very fast
When I'm driving my GT350R, I love passing GT3's, and pass most of them, makes me feel like a good driver... but put a good driver in a GT3 and I am astonished at how quickly they can leave me, I guess it's because I have a slow car ;-) and I believe Randy Pobst driving them back to back would be a little quicker in the GT3. My opinion is they are capable of very similar lap times, but the GT3 is also easier to post repeatable fast laps in due to better braking dynamics and lighter weight, it doesn't require as much driver effort so little mistakes are more easily avoided and over many laps makes a big difference.
The closest compare C8<>GT500 I can think of would be GT3<>ZL1 1LE and the same braking and weight considerations apply.Clearly GT500 will have a lot of fun with GT3 and GT3 RS too, but watch out bc Porsches are easy to drive fast, and driven well they are very fast
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You do realize that you confidently and "factually" stated a base 500 will beat a z51 right...? What makes you more knowledgeable than the rest of us? If you actually read about what was said about tires/weight/chassis and had a thorough understanding of what happens on a road course it wouldnt be an issue to determine that.
I'll add one more point. A 300TW tire which is seen on the base 500 and Z51 will get greasy as well really quick. What car do you think will hold max grip longer? A 760hp 4100lb car or a 495hp 3500lb car? The massive braking zone the 500 will need with a 4s is going to amplify that. Entry, corner and exit speed are the 3 most important parts of a fast lap and the z51 will be faster on all of those. Straight away speed counts for a lot less than most think. If I had a penny for the amount of times I've been freight trained down our 1/2 mile straight only to be back on their ass mid corner.
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Rumors are that it’s 4 seconds faster at big willow. If that’s the case the GT500 is running approximately times of the c7z.
Base model base model base model.
Yes the CFTP is going to be fast AF and also practically unobtainable. The rumors were also saying it was faster than a FGT on worn slicks. And it is certainly not faster than a FGT on worn slicks
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It will be faster than a C7GS and the C7 GS is a full second faster than a 350R which will be faster than a base 500. Ive pointed out plenty of evidence yet you havent pointed out any at all as to why a base 500 will beat a Z51. How bout you explain your end
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Say that all you want but it contradicts what people that witnessed it have reported.
I'm with you on this one. If the tires are similar, then the C8Z51 will be faster around a road course.
It will also be two years before you start seeing the GT500 driven anywhere near the limit on the road course.
The C8Z51 will be beaten like a rented mule. The GT500 is coming to a Cars and Coffee near you.
It will also be two years before you start seeing the GT500 driven anywhere near the limit on the road course.
The C8Z51 will be beaten like a rented mule. The GT500 is coming to a Cars and Coffee near you.
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