Mach1 With Roots style Blower????

[DREAMCOMETRUE]

Hi, I am starting this tread for a friend of mine. (Please understand we both are french and i have a little less trouble with writing in English:shrug We did search before but we did not really got the answer we really wanted. He have an 03 Mach1, he is going Roots Style for his winter project. Is decision is pretty much made by going this way. We wanted to know if there cons/suggestions or tips that we should be aware before going this way? He will go with my Stage 4 blower ,stock TB and Plenum. Would centrifuge be a better choice if yes Why??

Thanks alot Guys:rockon:

 

[03machstock]

[ame=http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71833]Eaton Swap..... - 2003-04 Mach 1 Registry Owners Club[/ame]

 

[04Mach1Blurr]

What does he have done? internals swapped over to handle the boost? Is it s/c already? Does it have the eaton swap parts already on it?

 

[DREAMCOMETRUE]

What does he have done? internals swapped over to handle the boost? Is it s/c already? Does it have the eaton swap parts already on it?

Pulley Kit, K/n Cold air, tune. No internals.nothing has been done so far S/Cwise!!! With 7-9 pound of boost should be ok with bottom end??

 

[sdg97232]

Pulley Kit, K/n Cold air, tune. No internals.nothing has been done so far S/Cwise!!! With 7-9 pound of boost should be ok with bottom end??

you need to factor in more then just the amount of boost, stuff like milage on the engine, maintenance routine, driving style, overall condition of the engine will all play aroll even on low boost. a good tune plays a critical roll in making a stock engine live under boost, find a good tuner that has experinece and a good reputation. there is no single answer to that question every car is different and they will react differently under boost even just 7-9 lbs.

 

[TR03Mach1]

Running around 8lbs. of boost on an Easton swapped Mach 1 motor, is probably not going to be an issue, but like these other guys said, you have to figure in all the other variables, and get it tuned properly.

 

[03machstock]

and tell your boy to ditch the ud pullies

 

[Nor Cal Mach]

Them UD's will take out that motor not the blower. With them stayin on next thing ya know his water pump will be shot and he'll have a blower with a useless motor.

 

[DREAMCOMETRUE]

Them UD's will take out that motor not the blower. With them stayin on next thing ya know his water pump will be shot and he'll have a blower with a useless motor.

Thanks guys for the replys, Sorry I dont want to sound stupid but please understand that there is a little language barrior here:shrugoes UD's Means under drive pulleys?? and when you guys say ditch them does it means replace them??:shrug:

 

[Nor Cal Mach]

Yes that means the underdrive pullies. And ditch them means get rid of them.

What happens is they are so small and light weight that they spin way to fast and shatter the gears in the water pump. Our/any motor with no water will over heat and eventually blow up. There not worth it to have on.

 

[03machstock]

Yes that means the underdrive pullies. And ditch them means get rid of them.

What happens is they are so small and light weight that they spin way to fast and shatter the gears in the water pump. Our/any motor with no water will over heat and eventually blow up. There not worth it to have on.

Oil pump, not water pump.

 

[Wishing4Cobra]

I would definitely read up the thread on Mach1Registry about the parts needed. Its not a easy swap because of so many parts.

 

[Nor Cal Mach]

Oil pump, not water pump.

Thanks for the correction

 

[DREAMCOMETRUE]

I would definitely read up the thread on Mach1Registry about the parts needed. Its not a easy swap because of so many parts.

Agree we are on it Thanks. Thanks guys for all your help, keep them coming!!! We are working with Tousley Ford for all the parts, they have done it before

Thanks:beer:

 

[SpeedofSoundN2O]

Yes that means the underdrive pullies. And ditch them means get rid of them.

What happens is they are so small and light weight that they spin way to fast and shatter the gears in the water pump. Our/any motor with no water will over heat and eventually blow up. There not worth it to have on.

they do not shatter water pump gears...they shatter oil pump gears!

they do not shatter them because they are so small and lightweight that they spin way to fast...they are too small to dampen the harmonics on the crank shaft, where the oil pump gears are driven, therefore the harmonics are transferred to the weak metal oil pump gears and they shatter. :beer:

 

[Nor Cal Mach]

:rollin

they do not shatter water pump gears...they shatter oil pump gears!

they do not shatter them because they are so small and lightweight that they spin way to fast...they are too small to dampen the harmonics on the crank shaft, where the oil pump gears are driven, therefore the harmonics are transferred to the weak metal oil pump gears and they shatter. :beer:

Thanks for the second correction. Were the **** were you when this question was asked originally. Your so smart but dumb as dirt when someone asks you a question..... Prick

 

[03machstock]

:rollin

Thanks for the second correction. Were the **** were you when this question was asked originally. Your so smart but dumb as dirt when someone asks you a question..... Prick

No need to jump down someones throat because you posted wrong info...

 

[03machstock]

Agree we are on it Thanks. Thanks guys for all your help, keep them coming!!! We are working with Tousley Ford for all the parts, they have done it before

Thanks:beer:

It might be a better idea to figure out what all parts you need ( the first link i posted will show you) and look online or on the registry for parts. Its ok to get small odds and ends from a dealership but would be expensive as hell if you bought everything new. Just a thought though its up to you.

 

[SpeedofSoundN2O]

:rollin

Thanks for the second correction. Were the **** were you when this question was asked originally. Your so smart but dumb as dirt when someone asks you a question..... Prick

your very welcome... jackass

 

[ponygt65]

your very welcome... jackass

It's "You're".

Sorry, I had to get in on this somehow. :lol1:



OP - there are a LOT of variables like already mentioned. Also, you have to remember that he is installing a ported stg4 blower. Even with teh stock upper pulley, it will be at a 450-470 power level pending tune and other mods.


Personally, I wouldn't go with that blower without upgraded the internals first. A stage 1 port yes, but a stg4, not me.


GL. :beer: