This anyone here ? (Supra race)

[Jroc]

I know enough to look up the actual weight of a 94 Toyota Supra 3,215#s
I know enough about Gasoline and internal combustion Gasoline Motors to know 3.85 hp per CI is almost imposable on the street. Not saying it can't be done. I know enough people who own Toyota Supra’s 3 that claim 900 to 1,300 hp but that can’t quite put those numbers down on dyno days along with other cars that can. The most I’ve seen is 761wrhp and that was with juice too! He had to start rebuilding it 2 weeks later, it was a crying shame the motor was only about a month old.

The plain and simple fact is they weigh 700 pounds less then our cars. A Supra with 500rwhp is a huge mountain to climb!

Pretty sure MKIV TT Supra's are more in the 3,500 lb range.(I've seen source vary between 3,400-3600 lbs) Base model N/A versions are in the 3,200 lb range.

Not sure about the weight differences between a hard top and targa top MKIV

The 2JZ-GTE is perhaps the stoutest factory motor ever put in a car. A FGT motor or something like that may be stouter, but IDK.

 

[KG/Eleanor]

What cooling mods do you have?

fluidyne heat exchanger and intercooler reservior

 

[Zeke0123]

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[mobeydick]

Pretty sure MKIV TT Supra's are more in the 3,500 lb range.(I've seen source vary between 3,400-3600 lbs) Base model N/A versions are in the 3,200 lb range.

Not sure about the weight differences between a hard top and targa top MKIV

The 2JZ-GTE is perhaps the stoutest factory motor ever put in a car. A FGT motor or something like that may be stouter, but IDK.

Welcome to home of the lightest MKIV Supras

 

[GreggsSVT]

I worked for Toyota for a while. Its nothing more then a japanese tractor engine with a good head. Originally came in the Toyota land cruisers. They got beat bad by V-6's on the tracks. But it makes a good drag race engine. What else does a Toyota fan have ??? A camry. LMAO

Fu** Toyota I think supras are gay!

 

[srk1959]

Nice Bogarts! Where did you get them?? Ha! Ha!.

Ok it's time for more power for you, which do you want me to order up KB 3.6LC or Whipple 4.0? Along with Van's H/E.

Still working on when we can all get together to go to GLD.

I know of a 2010 GT500 that will want to race you too!

 

[Jroc]

Welcome to home of the lightest MKIV Supras

3,475 lbs is pretty close to 3,500 lbs. Like I said if you look around you will find different #'s elsewhere also. I saw one sight today claiming 3,505 lbs for the manual, and 3,515 lbs for a auto.

You also need to take into account that the base #'s on that site are for a hard top car. The large majority of Supra's sold in the U.S are targa tops I believe. I would assume the targa top cars would weigh more.

 

[mustang loco]

This is the one i would be afraid of...YouTube- Supra VS. Cobra SVT

that thing can surely move ,wow!!

 

[mobeydick]

You did see the one with a Roll Cage that weighed 3,200# They can be made a lot lighter then ours. In the op video the Supra didn't have one.

What you seen in that video was a Heat soaked GT500 putting down about 500hp at the wheels and a 700 pound lighter Supra putting down about 450hp at the wheels.

Like I said I've been around some of the Supra guys and I consider them either the biggerst idiots or the biggest liars on the planet.

 

[fastlif]

I know enough to look up the actual weight of a 94 Toyota Supra 3,215#s
I know enough about Gasoline and internal combustion Gasoline Motors to know 3.85 hp per CI is almost imposable on the street. Not saying it can't be done. I know enough people who own Toyota Supra’s 3 that claim 900 to 1,300 hp but that can’t quite put those numbers down on dyno days along with other cars that can. The most I’ve seen is 761wrhp and that was with juice too! He had to start rebuilding it 2 weeks later, it was a crying shame the motor was only about a month old.

The plain and simple fact is they weigh 700 pounds less then our cars. A Supra with 500rwhp is a huge mountain to climb!

You really need to do a little more research. You may want to check out supra forums. Post your hp/liter "fact" over there and watch them come out of the woodwork. Supras are dyno and roll race kings. The 2jzgte is probably the best motor ever developed. It don't play.

 

[mobeydick]

You really need to do a little more research. You may want to check out supra forums. Post your hp/liter "fact" over there and watch them come out of the woodwork. Supras are dyno and roll race kings. The 2jzgte is probably the best motor ever developed. It don't play.

I would expect nothing less. It doesn't change the fact 4 HPper CI out of Gasoline is nearly impossible. Even in a Toyota.

 

[Jroc]

You did see the one with a Roll Cage that weighed 3,200# They can be made a lot lighter then ours. In the op video the Supra didn't have one.

What you seen in that video was a Heat soaked GT500 putting down about 500hp at the wheels and a 700 pound lighter Supra putting down about 450hp at the wheels.

Like I said I've been around some of the Supra guys and I consider them either the biggerst idiots or the biggest liars on the planet.

I thought we where discussing factory weight? :shrug:

You may be able to make them lighter than a S197, IDK, but I seriously doubt you can to a SN95, and defiantly not lighter than a Foxbody. If you are including Terminators in the discussion we have two area's they don't have to save weight unless they get really radical with there mods. The first is there are plenty of aluminum Modular blocks to be had so unless the Supra owner wants to swap to a LS motor or something he's pretty much stuck with a heavy, cast iron block, inline 6 motor. The second being we can swap to a SRA without hardly breaking a sweat, whereas you are not going to just drop the IRS out the Supra, and throw a stick axle right in its place without quite a bit of custom work.

Where in a Supra are you going to see major drops in weight without getting radical? Rear seat delete, race buckets, CF hood maybe? Do they even make tubular k-members for them? Never heard of one on a Supra street car. Those cars that have all significant weight loss are probably much more serious about racing, than about being a nice street car.

I would bet that the typical pre-05 Mustang with the same effort in weight savings would weigh several hundred pounds less. I've heard of SN95's that were setup strictly as race cars that weighed less than 2,500 lbs.

Don't get me wrong Supra's are a hell of a badass car when modded correctly, and I'm not trying to take that from them, I just feel that you are way over hyping how light they really are. They seem to be in the weight range of the higherend, optioned out 4th Gen Fbodies if not slightly heavier. I'm pretty sure thats heavier than all Foxbody/SN95 Mustangs other than a 2000 Cobra R, and a 03/04 Cobra. They certainly aren't fast because they are featherweight cars.

 

[mobeydick]

No, there not Featherweights but 700#s is huge That's ZO6 weight and with 450rwHP it should be faster then ours. A couple of things you should Know about the Supra Motors
that make the "1,000" HP numbers. The long blocks cost about $30,000, that doesn't include the Turbo Plumbing and Install of it all.

 

[FastOldGuy52]

On a cool day last November I raced a Big single turbo Supra who was probably running his street tune. I was running a Torco tune. He tried to brake boost but I slowed him down till I could get into first and use my torque more effectively against him. I pulled him two or three cars until around 120 when we had to shut down due to traffic. We made three pulls with similar results each time. If he had been running a race tune I doubt that I would have won.

Supras on race gas are no joke. They are nasty enough on 93 octane.

 

[FastOldGuy52]

Oh yeah this too: Mobey you don't know dick about Supras. :lol1:

 

[Jroc]

No, there not Featherweights but 700#s is huge That's ZO6 weight and with 450rwHP it should be faster then ours. A couple of things you should Know about the Supra Motors
that make the "1,000" HP numbers. The long blocks cost about $30,000, that doesn't include the Turbo Plumbing and Install of it all.

It seems to me that there's about a 350 lb difference between a C6Z, and a TT MKIV Supra. :shrug:

Supra's don't weigh like Vettes. Again factory late model TT Supra's are in the 3,500 lb range. If they weigh 3,200 lbs then they have quite a good bit of weight reduction. Supra's aren't the only cars that can benefit from weight saving mods.

 

[KG/Eleanor]

Here's the whole video

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPzjJJI80xY"]YouTube- SUpra vs Shelby[/nomedia]

 

[mobeydick]

That's more like a 700rwhp GT500 against a 450rwhp 94 Supra. You should have beat him. Your power to weight at that point was just too much.

 

[mobeydick]

Oh yeah this too: Mobey you don't know dick about Supras. :lol1:

You understand nothing about power to weight. Aerodynamics does play a roll at higher speeds also!

 

[90goldtsiawd]

Oh yeah this too: Mobey you don't know dick about Supras. :lol1:

This. Reading what Mobey types hurts my brain... Do you really believe the shit spewing out of your mouth?