5.8 GT500 blower swap?

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Understood. Why is the air flow different on that side? Seems like both sides are basically the same, no? While it seems everyone has made good points on me not bothering with the GT500 2.3, I still like the idea of being able to use a GT500 aftermarket blower.

I am already pot committed to the m122 swap. I was just thinking about the future, but it seems a Trinity swap is pointless, but the ability to use an aftermarket GT500 blower in general is still appealing. Unless it's not worth it?

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If you talk to Kenne Bell the driver side has more airflow. That's why the Mammoth kits have the throttle body on the driver side. IMO it's just marketing and they didn't want to engineer another inlet after making it for the GT500.
 

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If you talk to Kenne Bell the driver side has more airflow. That's why the Mammoth kits have the throttle body on the driver side. IMO it's just marketing and they didn't want to engineer another inlet after making it for the GT500.

I have spent much time working in fender/bumper and the driver's side does in fact have tons more room. The amount of stuff in that area on the passenger side is amazing. Now does it actually equate to more more air flow? That I am not sure of.
 

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Understood. Why is the air flow different on that side? Seems like both sides are basically the same, no? While it seems everyone has made good points on me not bothering with the GT500 2.3, I still like the idea of being able to use a GT500 aftermarket blower.

I am already pot committed to the m122 swap. I was just thinking about the future, but it seems a Trinity swap is pointless, but the ability to use an aftermarket GT500 blower in general is still appealing. Unless it's not worth it?

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No the sides are not the same. On the passenger side you have the Intercooler pump and you have the A/C parts and lines everywhere. Plus a few other things. The drivers side does not have a hole. (Kenne Bell Mammoth Kit requires you to cut hole in driver side)

This will not give you the ability to run aftermarket GT500 blowers. All the snouts are different than the Cobra Blowers. I have a GT500 Kenne Bell on my car and there is a lot involved.
 

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I have spent much time working in fender/bumper and the driver's side does in fact have tons more room. The amount of stuff in that area on the passenger side is amazing. Now does it actually equate to more more air flow? That I am not sure of.
I'd be more inclined to believe it if the Whipples and VMPs had trouble making the big power numbers. But since they don't i see it as just marketing by KB.

Once again, just my opinion. YMMV.
 

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I'd be more inclined to believe it if the Whipples and VMPs had trouble making the big power numbers. But since they don't i see it as just marketing by KB.

Once again, just my opinion. YMMV.


Your getting confused with "enough air" and "optimal setup". You always hear the people say "Well my buddy made such and such power with a stock throttle body so no need to upgrade!" Ya that is fine but how much more would he of made if he swapped to the ideal setup. Remember the Mammoth is only for the larger Kenne Bells and designed for people needing to flow to make 800rw+. That being said for the tiny sub 3L blowers (kenne bells, Eatons, Whipples) with low boost (sub 25psi) the passenger side fender is fine. Also I have never seen a TVS make "big" power numbers. Whipples yes all the time but they are usually nonfender intakes (ram air).

When you get to the real blowers and real boost you will see 99% of the people running Ram air intakes with either a hole in the headlight or the headlight removed. This negates the whole which side is better. This forms ideal flow path for the MAF, Ideal air temperature, and maximum CFMs.
 
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Your getting confused with "enough air" and "optimal setup". You always hear the people say "Well my buddy made such and such power with a stock throttle body so no need to upgrade!" Ya that is fine but how much more would he of made if he swapped to the ideal setup. That being said for the tiny sub 3L blowers with low boost (sub 25psi) the passenger side fender is fine. Also I have never seen a TVS make "big" power numbers. Whipples yes all the time but they are usually nonfender intakes (ram air).

When you get to the real blowers and real boost you will see 99% of the people running Ram air intakes with either a hole in the headlight or the headlight removed. This negates the whole which side is better. This forms ideal flow path for the MAF, Ideal air temperature, and maximum CFMs.

I thought low boost was like 18 and below. Pump gas can’t support much above 18 safely is my understanding so then the switch to a higher octane fuel is needed. Everyone who I’ve told my setup to says 22 psi is “a lot”.
 

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I thought low boost was like 18 and below. Pump gas can’t support much above 18 safely is my understanding so then the switch to a higher octane fuel is needed. Everyone who I’ve told my setup to says 22 psi is “a lot”.

Sorry that is kinda confusing. I mean in the grand scheme of these cars with aftermarket blowers. Again all relative. What is high horsepower and what is high boost and what airflow and fuel is needed. 99% of the terminators that have aftermarket SC run 17-30psi. Running a TVS at 30psi would not be a great setup. Running a 3.4L at 30psi would be a fun day. 22psi for a 2.3L TVS is a lot. 22 psi for a 3L blower is just getting into its efficiency.

Depending where you live E85 is "pump gas" and I was pulleyed for 28.5psi on my old cruising around setup and my new setup on E85 is ~32psi.
 

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Your getting confused with "enough air" and "optimal setup". You always hear the people say "Well my buddy made such and such power with a stock throttle body so no need to upgrade!" Ya that is fine but how much more would he of made if he swapped to the ideal setup. Remember the Mammoth is only for the larger Kenne Bells and designed for people needing to flow to make 800rw+. That being said for the tiny sub 3L blowers (kenne bells, Eatons, Whipples) with low boost (sub 25psi) the passenger side fender is fine. Also I have never seen a TVS make "big" power numbers. Whipples yes all the time but they are usually nonfender intakes (ram air).

When you get to the real blowers and real boost you will see 99% of the people running Ram air intakes with either a hole in the headlight or the headlight removed. This negates the whole which side is better. This forms ideal flow path for the MAF, Ideal air temperature, and maximum CFMs.

I was thinking more about a Whipple 3.4 I know that's making about 800rwhp on race gas. And he keeps both head lights in.

Not to mention the guy that was just on here making over 800rwhp with a Whipple 2.9 on E85. I consider both of these cars big power.
 

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Sorry that is kinda confusing. I mean in the grand scheme of these cars with aftermarket blowers. Again all relative. What is high horsepower and what is high boost and what airflow and fuel is needed. 99% of the terminators that have aftermarket SC run 17-30psi. Running a TVS at 30psi would not be a great setup. Running a 3.4L at 30psi would be a fun day. 22psi for a 2.3L TVS is a lot. 22 psi for a 3L blower is just getting into its efficiency.

Depending where you live E85 is "pump gas" and I was pulleyed for 28.5psi on my old cruising around setup and my new setup on E85 is ~32psi.

What kind of power are you making at 32? Has to be a good bit.
 

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Probably lays a football fields length of rubber down too on a drag radial. Sounds badass if you ask me. Any issues with the lower cage or crank or after market lower?
 

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It’s true the driver side has a bigger fender space, that’s also why vortech/lysholm blowers pull from the drivers side.
 

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Sorry that is kinda confusing. I mean in the grand scheme of these cars with aftermarket blowers. Again all relative. What is high horsepower and what is high boost and what airflow and fuel is needed. 99% of the terminators that have aftermarket SC run 17-30psi. Running a TVS at 30psi would not be a great setup. Running a 3.4L at 30psi would be a fun day. 22psi for a 2.3L TVS is a lot. 22 psi for a 3L blower is just getting into its efficiency.

Depending where you live E85 is "pump gas" and I was pulleyed for 28.5psi on my old cruising around setup and my new setup on E85 is ~32psi.

Wowza - built motor? reworked Heads? That sounds awesome
 

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OP don't forget that the windshield washer reservoir is on the drivers side too, so that limits room. Having had an intake on both sides, i think there's less drama on the passenger side. Not to mention that you have a huge hole for cool air already on the passenger side...

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