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Neighbor kills two of his neighbors over snowplowing argument - Graphic Video
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All true......to a point.
How about threatening your neighbor? The hubby was a tough guy as he was calling names and threatening (with violence) theman until he started crying like a baby. His demeanor sure changed didn't it? The shooter would be alright if he responded APPROPRIATELY to physical threats but obviously he ran too much boost for his setup.
I guess he did because he was being actively murdered, what's your point?
You're allowed to meet force with appropriate force. So yes one of them could have killed him after he started firing. A good lawyer would have would have gotten them a reduced sentence.
You're allowed to call people ****ing pussies and say you will beat their ass. Again, the other party is not allowed to kill you for it, especially in this case when the video just showed posturing and not a real threat. Settling a possible fist fight with a gun makes you a straight pussy.
I believe you are confused... they wouldn’t have been shooting a guy taking a swing... if they had a gun and shot the guy after the guy came out flashing the handgun, they would have been justified in shooting him dead...
Once neighbor flashed his gun, he had shown opportunity, capability and intent.
They could have legally neutralized that fool.
This was a hard one to watch. I know I know play stupid games win stupid prizes but seriously taking life over snow?
I dunno I could see getting into a physical exchange at most but the shooter just seems like a pussy and the fact he took his life solidified it for me. Then again maybe it’s a sign of the times and how badly people’s mental state is in the past year.
now it’s a shame that the other neighbors perpetuated it, seriously never push someone so far and when they have a gun shut your mouth. Emotions get the best of people and these two lost their lives because they didn’t let some words go.
me personally I’ve had truly shared driveways, and I know that they generally perpetuate a lot of animosity between neighbors. They literally are a price reduction point in home value because of how often disputes arise. I’ve made it a point in a pat house that had one I talked to the other people first and made sure we saw eye to eye on basic maintenance and lifestyle stuff before I moved in and after that life was smooth sailing. Life is too short to argue with a neighbor, I’ll sooner move to another house.
I dunno I could see getting into a physical exchange at most but the shooter just seems like a pussy and the fact he took his life solidified it for me. Then again maybe it’s a sign of the times and how badly people’s mental state is in the past year.
now it’s a shame that the other neighbors perpetuated it, seriously never push someone so far and when they have a gun shut your mouth. Emotions get the best of people and these two lost their lives because they didn’t let some words go.
me personally I’ve had truly shared driveways, and I know that they generally perpetuate a lot of animosity between neighbors. They literally are a price reduction point in home value because of how often disputes arise. I’ve made it a point in a pat house that had one I talked to the other people first and made sure we saw eye to eye on basic maintenance and lifestyle stuff before I moved in and after that life was smooth sailing. Life is too short to argue with a neighbor, I’ll sooner move to another house.
Never could get the audio to work. I had my volume all the way up and made sure it wasn’t muted and all I got was the video.
That one worked!
You seem to think this was over words and nothing more and even if it were (which it wasn't), there are limits. Eventually it'll turn into harassment and the married couple seemed destined for a wrong turn. Last I looked threatening people is a no no and in this state it is unwise to threaten someone especially if you can't back it up.
Answering your first question, unfortunately for all three people the hubby acted like the **** of the walk and it got him in trouble. Even so, I still surprised how the shooter seemed more fixated on the wife than husband.
wrong.
Yeah, because people aren't saying it all time in arguments on the street and with road rage shit.
I can say I will beat your ass. Your pussy ass can't shoot me
You seem to think he was in the right?
Only thing I'll say is you say anything to anyone expect the worst reaction and consequences. That doesn't mean the following consequences are at all justified. As they were not in this scenario
I'm starting to think they should take away guns so physically weak faggots will actually have to do some work when killing someone
Sure you can say it and you could also be arrested for it.
Just like, you can call me a pussy and I can then make your ass into Swiss cheese.
Doesn't work anything like that but nice try. Never seen one ****er get arrested for saying he'll beat someone's ass. Especially in an exchange like this
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So if you which I assume look exactly like your avi or I being 6’3 and about 300 pounds says to a mere mortal soyboy I am going to beat your ass. We are fooked.
If the person fears for their life lethal force is justified. I know the law. I have studied the law and I know this is how it works.
If you come after me with any perceived weapon. Even a plastic bag or your fists being you look like a real man and not these puny bastids I can legally put you down.
Don’t kill the messenger.
If the person fears for their life lethal force is justified. I know the law. I have studied the law and I know this is how it works.
If you come after me with any perceived weapon. Even a plastic bag or your fists being you look like a real man and not these puny bastids I can legally put you down.
Don’t kill the messenger.[/QUOTE]
Those are very specific circumstances, and in that case killing is justified. This case is not that and the guy was not in fear of his life he had just had it and executed them.
If you come after me with any perceived weapon. Even a plastic bag or your fists being you look like a real man and not these puny bastids I can legally put you down.
Don’t kill the messenger.[/QUOTE]
Those are very specific circumstances, and in that case killing is justified. This case is not that and the guy was not in fear of his life he had just had it and executed them.
not trying anything... making threats is illegal. I’ve seen many get away with it but I have also seen some not...
I agree with that. You use lethal force when your life is in danger.
This shooter had some mental illness for sure. I know the feud between these people went on for years. Still can’t shoot them for it. If the husband did threaten the shooters life his life was not in danger at any point. No weapon is seen. The husband approached the shooter. We have video evidence.
If the shooter was of sound mind he goes back into his home at that point and calls the cops.
But this is a great example of why you do not push people. Mental illness is rampant in this world and I’ve seen people with my own eyes die for far less.
Where the hell did you go to law school!???
1. In video, couple was the aggressors. The started and engaged in the conflict.
1a. For a clean "self defense" case you can't be the aggressor.
2. Husband throw a snow scraper at the neighbor. This could be construed as battery or assault with a deadly weapon (metal shovel, could kill you).
3. When the neighbor drew, the couple should have retreated. Instead, they upped the aggression and taunting and continued to approach.
3a. The neighbor could have argued at this point he was forced to fire. He was being approached by two angry people threatening to beat his ass and expressing they had no fear of him shooting. Had he not fired he could have been disarmed and killed with his own weapon.
3b. Had the couple then drawn down, they will be asked why are they advancing and had he shot after they also drawn he'd argue he drew because they advanced at him with shovels yelling they're going to beat his pussy ass and when they drew he had to defend himself with lethal force.
4. This is the exact reason states have all sorts of wonky self defense laws - people go out of their way to put themselves in danger then cry self defense when they use force to dig themselves out. You need to have self agency. If you need to carry because "its a rough part of town" or "well things might get crazy"..... Should you really be going there or do that?
5. For all my hard core CCWs here, do you actually carry when you shovel snow or mow your yard?
Shooter should have left his gun inside and walked out and slapped the loud mouth with an open hand.
That would have made him a meme hero.
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That would have made him a meme hero.
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