2004 Lemon List

[SVT Cobra]

MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO
Subaru Impreza 27,952
Infiniti I35 21,372
Audi A4 18,943
Ford Escape 14,441
Ford Focus 13,346
Acura RSX 11,657
Pontiac Aztek 11,537
Ford Excursion 10,277
Mitsubishi Eclipse 9,691
Jeep Liberty 9,450
Chevrolet Corvette 9,214
Chevrolet Blazer 7,938
Suzuki Grand Vitara 7,385
Volkswagen Passat 6,687
Honda Insight 6,496
Volkswagen Jetta 6,152
Acura TL 6,058
Suzuki Vitara 5,913
Land Rover Freelander 5,589
Audi A6 5,571
Dodge Caravan 5,561
Jeep Grand Cherokee 5,235
Honda S2000 5,162
GMC Yukon 5,094
Dodge Neon 5,045

http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html

not sure how accurate this list is, just thought i'd share with you guys. i am pretty surprised the wrx made top of that list, didn't know they were nearly that bad. mustang's aren't on that list, which is always a good thing. ford however is on it 3 times(focus, escape, excursion).

 

[T-Bolt]

Gm's on there more than that though, and look at the vette numbers...

 

[WireEater]

I just think Subaru has a wider base of whinny customers. From what I know those cars are built very well for the most part.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by T-Bolt
Gm's on there more than that though, and look at the vette numbers...

true, but i don't care about GM- i don't see myself ever buying one really.

and i wonder what kind of complaints these customers made. do they complain about how a gigantic 64oz drink from 7 eleven doesn't fit in their cup holder?

 

[inteller]

wish I knew out of the focus number how many were SVTs

 

[WireEater]

Most likely, that's what I was thinking. As far as the Subaru goes, it's the Impreza model which would also be the WRX & STI complaints. It’s probably just a bunch of people whining about not having enough horse power and other nitpicking crap.

Originally posted by SVT Cobra
true, but i don't care about GM- i don't see myself ever buying one really.

and i wonder what kind of complaints these customers made. do they complain about how a gigantic 64oz drink from 7 eleven doesn't fit in their cup holder?

 

[2004 Culebra]

I am a Mustang and F-150/f-250 guy. Those are not up there so I am happy...:rockon:

I hate subaru so that is even better...:beer: :rockon:

 

[nj7703]

I'm suprised the Hummer did not make the list. I understand the build quality is terrible on those things. There is a local dealer near me with more used ones than new ones in the lot.

 

[black96snake]

I've heard that the H2's have very poor build quality. I too am suprised that they aren't on the list.

 

[T-Bolt]

They are supposedly the most unreliable car in the US, according to JD Power. 220 problems per 100 cars when the industry average is at something like 130.

 

[Chameleon]

Just for reference I went to the above site and searched on complaints regarding Mustangs. For the 2003 model year the site seperates Mustangs into three categories. They list "Mustang" then "Mustang Convertible" and finally "Mustang GT." The site does not list Cobra's as a separate item. It seem like Cobra complaints were lumped into the "Mustang" category.

Here are the 2003 complaint numbers on the site:

"Mustang" - 77
"Mustang Convertible" - 16
"Mustang GT" - 33

Total of all 2003 Mustang categories - 126

For 2004 there was only one Mustang category.

For 2004 there were 13 Complaints.

So for the 03/04 model years there have been a total of only 139 complaints!

The numbers above may not comparable to the numbers above. I don't know.

 

[T-Bolt]

Damn!

 

[05 Roush]

Welp,

That doesn't surpise me. What also doesn't surpise me is that there are FOUR Honda/Acura models on the list.

Oh, yeah, these Hundah's have superior build and quality, don't they... :nonono:

 

[WyoTechMSA]

And look at the numbers on the escape and focus and excursion

 

[05 Roush]

I've decided to do a little math with the list:

MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO BY MFG

Ford - 38,064
VW - 37,353
GM - 33,783
Honda - 29,373
Subaru - 27,952
Chrysler - 25,291
Nissan - 21,372
Suzuki - 13,298
Mitubishi - 9,691
Land Rover - 5,589

Toyota - n/a
Saab - n/a
BMW - n/a
Volvo - n/a
Jaquar - n/a
Mercedes Benz - n/a
Kia - n/a
Hundai - n/a


Interesting....:dw:

 

[SWYZ721]

Wouldn't you also have to look at how many cars are sold, as compared to how many have complaints? Or is that already calculated in the original numbers shown?

 

[Vancouver83LTD]

Originally posted by black96snake
I've heard that the H2's have very poor build quality. I too am suprised that they aren't on the list.

Funny you should say that, because driving today I had a new HID equipped H2 behind me - left light flickers, goes out. i remember it because it was an odd colour, and I took note that the license plate at the stoplight had been just registered about a week ago...

 

[Vancouver83LTD]

Originally posted by SVT Cobra
do they complain about how a gigantic 64oz drink from 7 eleven doesn't fit in their cup holder?

...Owners of the new F150 don't.

Seriously, the biggest ass 7-11 slurpee cup fits!
I test drove one of the new FX4's today!

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by SWYZ721
Wouldn't you also have to look at how many cars are sold, as compared to how many have complaints? Or is that already calculated in the original numbers shown?

You are absolutely right! It order to really compare what is going on you would have to calculate the number of complaints per car produced.

What really surprises me about the list is how high Corvette is on it. I guess I didn't realize that people were having so many problems with them.

 

[LittleSalfromSH]

Originally posted by PlatinumCobra
I've decided to do a little math with the list:

MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO BY MFG

Ford - 38,064
VW - 37,353
GM - 33,783
Honda - 29,373
Subaru - 27,952
Chrysler - 25,291
Nissan - 21,372
Suzuki - 13,298
Mitubishi - 9,691
Land Rover - 5,589

Toyota - n/a
Saab - n/a
BMW - n/a
Volvo - n/a
Jaquar - n/a
Mercedes Benz - n/a
Kia - n/a
Hundai - n/a


Interesting....:dw:

honda and subaru being very high up there is very interesting to see. I would assume ford would also be merc and linc, so the amount of cars can be huge compared to say subaru...

VW+audi = :nonono:

new benz build quality also = :kaboom: