2015+ Aluminator Compatibility

[JpL4K3]

Outside of having to change the upper intake manifold, are there any other requirements needed to make a 2015+ Aluminator work in a 11 - 14?

I searched and can't fine a definite answer to this.

 

[dennisn]

I'm looking for same answers.

 

[mcduffer7]

I called Ford Racing and you would need to buy the control pack as the firing order is different. I almost bought a 15-16 Aluminator until I called. Luckily I found an 11-14 SC version.

 

[dennisn]

I was told firing order is the same.

 

[Turbo5.0]

Same firing order on 5.0's. 5.2 FPC (GT350) different firing order. You would have to modify/deal with the difference in the oil filter adaptor to block change.

 

[AKDMB]

Firing order isn't different. Get in contact with pro dyno or the guy in the second page of this thread for more info. It has been done apparently, but the cams were swapped from the 2011-2014 motor over to the 2015, don't know why though. The cam phasers are different on the 2015+.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...our-options-for-an-affordable-longblock/page2

 

[dennisn]

Here's my problem I'm not swapping cams in a brand new motor.

 

[4VFTW]

Ford racing doesn't know what firing order the engine has.... /facepalm

 

[BMR Tech]

Yeah, you have to pu the 11-14 cams in the 15+ engine....lol

 

[AKDMB]

I have generally found Ford Racing tech line pretty helpful. I hope they didn't tell mcduffer7 that the 2015 5.0 had a different firing order.

 

[JpL4K3]

So why are the cams needing to be swapped out?

 

[Shaun@AED]

So why are the cams needing to be swapped out?

Intake center line changed in the 15+ cars. Phasers have extra range as well.

 

[dennisn]

What about swapping ecm instead of cams. Granted it's not cheap but not nearly as invasive

 

[JpL4K3]

Doesn't appear to be worth it. Most cost effective way now is probably to build your stock motor.

 

[AKDMB]

I don't know how a 2015 PCM would work with the rest of the car. The PCM has to play with every other portion of the CAN BUS in the car. You can't think of it like a standalone engine controller.

 

[weemon2k2]

Outside of having to change the upper intake manifold, are there any other requirements needed to make a 2015+ Aluminator work in a 11 - 14?

I searched and can't fine a definite answer to this.

Here is a good alternative to the aluminator if you have and 11–14 coyote.
http://pbhperformance.com/shop/pbh-coyote-longblock/

To my knowledge you can use the S550 5.0 engine in a S197 as long as you have 11-14 timing components and intake manifold

 

[TheVikingRL]

That would probably be a good deal with aftermarket rods and pistons. But 7k for a basically stock undressed long block? Dunno.

 

[dennisn]

Least this is an option and a quick one at that. That's my kind of lead time.

It is a lot. No intake, no valve covers, water pump etc........

 

[rustang1]

Intake center line changed in the 15+ cars. Phasers have extra range as well.

Can this be accounted for in the tune or just run the cams in the 11-14 "range" of adjustments?

 

[mcduffer7]

I have generally found Ford Racing tech line pretty helpful. I hope they didn't tell mcduffer7 that the 2015 5.0 had a different firing order.

That is exactly what I was told and exactly why I didn't buy the 15-16 version. Ford Racing tech line.