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<blockquote data-quote="svtfocus2cobra" data-source="post: 16448624" data-attributes="member: 21786"><p>I'm not sure people realize how terrible Dodge engines are as they reach higher mileage. As someone who runs a shop, I'm seriously considering not accepting anymore major engine repairs for FCA vehicles because Im not lying when I say every single that includes head gaskets, head replacements, or valvetrain work has bit us in the ass... every.single.time! For example:</p><p></p><p>2007 Charger 3.5L - tear down reveals rocker arms that got damaged, we replaced and put back together only to start it up and have a connecting rod wrist pin start to make nearly an identical noise, a noise that wasn't there before. </p><p>2011 G Cherokee 5.7L - confirmed to have blown head gaskets as well as inoperable air bag suspension. $8k bill that and we fixed it all, but when we put it back together oil is leaking into the coolant. Tear it down again and send heads back out to be inspected and worked once more but they confirm heads are good and there is no signs of damage on the block. We try one more time in hopes it was something to do with the gasket but to no avail oil is getting into the coolant still so now I've got a reman engine on the way for the car that we are paying for. </p><p>2013 Cherokee 3.2 - Known issue with bad rollers that start to tick and eventually start to damage camshafts. Order new cylinder heads and install along with new VVT solenoids and phasers, put it all back together, car is running great at start up, tech takes it out for a drive and 15min in it makes a noise and he has to stop and we tow it back. Tear down shows an intake cam seized and snapped all 4 cam phasers straight through and obviously damaged the cam that seized. One of the oil passages likely got blocked from a piece of debris from the old camshaft that started to get damaged by the roller and dislodged and made its way up into the new cylinder head. </p><p></p><p>That is just the most current examples we are dealing with. Some of these obviously could have been solved if the tech had taken a considerable amount of extra time to try to prevent anything from happening, but a lot of it just can't be foreseen or there is no way to see what is going to happen. Both Jeeps were completed by an ASE tech with over 25 years of experience. I even called the Jeep dealer and asked them about what happened on our G Cherokee to see if they had ever ran into that issue and they confirmed they had experienced the same thing but they couldn't remember the cause. He confirmed they just put a new motor in also. </p><p></p><p>I talked to another shop a while ago who primarily does major engine repairs and swaps as they had received a Charger SRT8 that we had done the testing on but it needed an engine and we did not want to do the repair so it was taken to this other shop. Talking to the owner of that shop about the Hemi motors, he said they are the worst and he does more new Hemi motors at his shop than any other brand. Last year he did 57 Hemi swaps on various FCA vehicles. </p><p></p><p>Working in a shop you see patterns with the different brands in the types of repairs that come in, but I swear FCA vehicles don't have a pattern, they just have issues and it is different all the time. They are one of the only brands that have unexplainable issues and will regularly spawn issues out of nowhere. I'll never own one and I'm done losing money on them because they are too unpredictable, and I'm done with all the snapped head bolts and exhaust manifold bolts which are a given. </p><p></p><p>As far as these new SRT vehicles go though, at face value I dont hate them, but I am getting a little tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. The only reason they are doing this is because FCA can't afford to update the platform so they are throwing everything they have at it to keep the models and their sales alive.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="svtfocus2cobra, post: 16448624, member: 21786"] I'm not sure people realize how terrible Dodge engines are as they reach higher mileage. As someone who runs a shop, I'm seriously considering not accepting anymore major engine repairs for FCA vehicles because Im not lying when I say every single that includes head gaskets, head replacements, or valvetrain work has bit us in the ass... every.single.time! For example: 2007 Charger 3.5L - tear down reveals rocker arms that got damaged, we replaced and put back together only to start it up and have a connecting rod wrist pin start to make nearly an identical noise, a noise that wasn't there before. 2011 G Cherokee 5.7L - confirmed to have blown head gaskets as well as inoperable air bag suspension. $8k bill that and we fixed it all, but when we put it back together oil is leaking into the coolant. Tear it down again and send heads back out to be inspected and worked once more but they confirm heads are good and there is no signs of damage on the block. We try one more time in hopes it was something to do with the gasket but to no avail oil is getting into the coolant still so now I've got a reman engine on the way for the car that we are paying for. 2013 Cherokee 3.2 - Known issue with bad rollers that start to tick and eventually start to damage camshafts. Order new cylinder heads and install along with new VVT solenoids and phasers, put it all back together, car is running great at start up, tech takes it out for a drive and 15min in it makes a noise and he has to stop and we tow it back. Tear down shows an intake cam seized and snapped all 4 cam phasers straight through and obviously damaged the cam that seized. One of the oil passages likely got blocked from a piece of debris from the old camshaft that started to get damaged by the roller and dislodged and made its way up into the new cylinder head. That is just the most current examples we are dealing with. Some of these obviously could have been solved if the tech had taken a considerable amount of extra time to try to prevent anything from happening, but a lot of it just can't be foreseen or there is no way to see what is going to happen. Both Jeeps were completed by an ASE tech with over 25 years of experience. I even called the Jeep dealer and asked them about what happened on our G Cherokee to see if they had ever ran into that issue and they confirmed they had experienced the same thing but they couldn't remember the cause. He confirmed they just put a new motor in also. I talked to another shop a while ago who primarily does major engine repairs and swaps as they had received a Charger SRT8 that we had done the testing on but it needed an engine and we did not want to do the repair so it was taken to this other shop. Talking to the owner of that shop about the Hemi motors, he said they are the worst and he does more new Hemi motors at his shop than any other brand. Last year he did 57 Hemi swaps on various FCA vehicles. Working in a shop you see patterns with the different brands in the types of repairs that come in, but I swear FCA vehicles don't have a pattern, they just have issues and it is different all the time. They are one of the only brands that have unexplainable issues and will regularly spawn issues out of nowhere. I'll never own one and I'm done losing money on them because they are too unpredictable, and I'm done with all the snapped head bolts and exhaust manifold bolts which are a given. As far as these new SRT vehicles go though, at face value I dont hate them, but I am getting a little tired of seeing the same thing over and over again. The only reason they are doing this is because FCA can't afford to update the platform so they are throwing everything they have at it to keep the models and their sales alive. [/QUOTE]
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