Anyone help with whipple swap for CA smog.

[wckdvnm]

So I’ve been trying to get some more clarity on whipples EO for the 03-04 cars. As some here may know the CARB EO number for the whipples are for the blowers only. I asked for more clarity on this from whipple as I am considering using a whipple to replace the stock blower. Whipples responses below as regards to the EO.

Now I wanted to make sure and asked them if the factory tune is safe for what the EO calls for pulley wise. I sent them an email asking them if the tune is “safe” enough to run the 2.3 as the kit is EO’d; Which I’ve seen say 3.25 and 3.5. Can some one please tell me what are the boost levels of the 3.5? They have replied since then and wanted to run this by some here who have done tuning. I’d also like to see if anyone has actually ran the blower as a replacement only. I get it I get it, it will be boring but it may all be our problem soon.

Anyone that can chime in would be appreciated.

Whipple EO document I’ve seen around.

 

[Fastback]

When the Whipple blower came out it was advertised as a stock replacement. Meaning just the blower at stock boost levels. While it is more efficient, it makes more power at stock boost. When you are running the stock boost, stock tune works.

 

[03 DSG Snake]

When the Whipple blower came out it was advertised as a stock replacement. Meaning just the blower at stock boost levels. While it is more efficient, it makes more power at stock boost. When you are running the stock boost, stock tune works.

This.

Unfortunately after contacting Whipple, the 2.9L also runs stock tune with a CARB #but doesn’t net any real gains at stock boost due to the increased power to spin it.

I believe KB is in a similar scenario with a CARB # on the stock setup only. Unfortunately neither blower allows for an injector swap without removing the blower and lower manifold each time...

 

[Blkkbgt]

This.

Unfortunately after contacting Whipple, the 2.9L also runs stock tune with a CARB #but doesn’t net any real gains at stock boost due to the increased power to spin it.

I believe KB is in a similar scenario with a CARB # on the stock setup only. Unfortunately neither blower allows for an injector swap without removing the blower and lower manifold each time...

Why does the blower need to be removed on both kits?

Is it the inlet that prevents you from pulling the injector rail on that side?

If so I thought the inlets were removable on both blowers?

What am I missing?

 

[wckdvnm]

When the Whipple blower came out it was advertised as a stock replacement. Meaning just the blower at stock boost levels. While it is more efficient, it makes more power at stock boost. When you are running the stock boost, stock tune works.

I was just unsure the factory tune would be safe at the 13 psi the 3.5 pulley makes.
Others sites also say it is safe to run on the factory calibration. I’d love to hear experiences with this from someone here who has just slapped it on and went.
I’m sure adding a CAI may cause the tune to get more lean?
Then again JLT’s all have carb numbers now for our cars.

Just wanted to get a “no fun” parts list together for us here in CA.

 

[01yellercobra]

Why does the blower need to be removed on both kits?

Is it the inlet that prevents you from pulling the injector rail on that side?

If so I thought the inlets were removable on both blowers?

What am I missing?

I guess you haven't seen all the VMP posts bragging about their removable inlet. The Whipple and KB are one piece.

 

[Blkkbgt]

I guess you haven't seen all the VMP posts breeding bragging about their removable inlet. The Whipple and KB are one piece.

No I haven't.

 

[wckdvnm]

No I haven't.

Yeah the VMP series of super chargers have a removable inlet. Much the same as the factory Eaton.
May be great but VMP never got around to getting that carb number for the 2.65.

 

[03 DSG Snake]

Why does the blower need to be removed on both kits?

Is it the inlet that prevents you from pulling the injector rail on that side?

If so I thought the inlets were removable on both blowers?

What am I missing?

Single piece inlet. No way passenger side rail is coming out.

The inlets are removable from the rear but will never happen with the blower in car..

 

[Blkkbgt]

Single piece inlet. No way passenger side rail is coming out.

The inlets are removable from the rear but will never happen with the blower in car..

I always assumed you could still remove the single piece inlets with the blower still attached.

 

[03 DSG Snake]

I always assumed you could still remove the single piece inlets with the blower still attached.

No sir.

TVS with a CARB # would be a game changer for the Terminator..

 

[Blkkbgt]

No sir.

TVS with a CARB # would be a game changer for the Terminator..

I understand. I'd kill for a CARB legal TVS for us lowly 2V guys as well. I despise that there is only 1 smog legal PD blower for us.

I was hoping to see Tork Tech make a kit when they came out but they have no plans.

 

[03yllwguy]

Had anyone considered having the stock injectors upsized? I know you can do 80lbs max but this would allow you to revert to the stock tune (yes, with a dealer reflash) but without the need to change injectors/pull the blower.


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[wckdvnm]

Had anyone considered having the stock injectors upsized? I know you can do 80lbs max but this would allow you to revert to the stock tune (yes, with a dealer reflash) but without the need to change injectors/pull the blower.


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That could be an option; deatsworks sells a factory replacement pump that’s E-85 compatible.

 

[AFLOCOBRA]

340lph compact fuel pump with out clips w/ 9-1033 install kit @909venm cant find that factory replacement only those..

 

[wckdvnm]

340lph compact fuel pump with out clips w/ 9-1033 install kit @909venm cant find that factory replacement only those..

I could have sworn those pumps were originally advertised as a drop in replacement for the factory pumps. I could be wrong; I’m not sure if you’d need FPDM mods nor if those could run on a factory tune that is above my knowledge base.