bad tempt gauge

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
Well I put in the new gauge and did what you said and when all done the needle stayed in the hot position with the glass off, I pushed the needle to cold and it went back to hot. The new gauge did not have the little resistor on the metal case as my original did.
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
I have never seen one without the resistor. I am guessing that's the problem. I will need to look into which years/models have the resistor and which ones don't.

I am sorry that I didn't know about that difference. The process should work with the correct gauge.

Sorry again.
 

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
No reason to be sorry and thanks for all of your help. Wonder if I could put the resister on the new gauge ? My cluster was played with by the previous owner I wonder if that gauge just needs to have the pot treatment ?
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
I wouldn't try putting the resistor on the new movement. It probably depends on the number of turns of wire on the two windings inside. You might be able to calibrate it at hot, but it may not be calibrated at all at the other temperatures.
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
When you have the pot at 9.7 ohms, connect it in place of the sensor and put the needle on the gauge so that it points at the Hot mark with the key on, you are "calibrating" the gauge. This means you know that the gauge is pointing where it is supposed to when the sensor says it is Hot. You can only calibrate the needle at that one point. You have to assume that the gauge is relatively accurate at all of the lower points on the gauge.

If you have a gauge that works differently than the original gauge then it might be way off at the cooler temperatures. If you have one that works like the original, then you can assume that it will be relatively close to where it should be compared to the original gauge.

Since I don't know the differences between the gauges with and without the resistor, I don't know if they both work the same. It sounds like they don't.

Let me know if I haven't made this clear.
 

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
After doing some research I found out that the temperature gauge for a 98 pins are swapped the signal and ground so you have to swap then could you tell me what color are the wires and I take it that they mean doing this on the harness?
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
That's my web site. :)

You can't change the pins on the cluster, you have to change at the harness.

To use a 98 cluster in a 96 or 97 car, you swap the Red/White wire (Pin 14) with the adjacent Orange/Yellow wire Pin 15 on connector C250. Looking at the connectors from the driver's seat, C250 is on the left.

Here's how you de-pin the connector: http://www.accutach.com/general-how-tos/cluster-connector-re-pin

That would explain a non functional gauge.
 

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
I thought that was you. When I swap the fuel gauge and the anti slush does the fuel work fine without any other calibration?
 

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
When the car is cold the needle is on C but when I start it up the needle goes to the normal right away
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
When the car is cold the needle is on C but when I start it up the needle goes to the normal right away

Which cluster are you talking about now? What year is the car? What year is the Cobra Cluster? What year is the donor cluster? And is this after you have swapped the two pins on the cluster connector? I am getting confused as to what your situation is at this point.
 

Snake Bitten

New Member
Established Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
29
Location
Pa.
I'm using my 96 Cobra cluster with a temperature and fuel gauge plus the anti slush from a 98 120MPH cluster
 

mwolson

Gray beard
Established Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2004
Messages
3,411
Location
San Jose, CA
You are making me suspect that there is some difference between the temp gauges in the 98 clusters and the ones in the older clusters...
 

Users who are viewing this thread



Top