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<blockquote data-quote="ShelbyGuy" data-source="post: 6839643" data-attributes="member: 10042"><p>Actually, the contact patch of the tire is the <em>first</em> link in the chain, not the final. Once the wheel has locked up, the brakes are doing nothing.</p><p></p><p>As far as calipers and rotor discs go, the farther out from the hub you have the caliper, the more torque it can exert on the rotor disc. A 14" brake kit will have substantially better braking power than a 13" kit.</p><p></p><p>The next thing in line to affect braking performance is the width of the brake pad. A wide [long?] pad has more contact with the rotor disc surface so it can both apply pressure over a greater area, and also absorb more heat than a narrower pad. Brakes are all about converting friction into heat and then dissipating that.</p><p></p><p>Ideally you want the thickest pad you can run not just because it will last the longest, but your braking performance decreases exponentially once the pad has worn beyond 50% of its useful life. The pad itself is what transfers the heat away from the rotor disc.</p><p></p><p>6 piston calipers, while being fully buzzword-compliant, don't really gain you anything other than a reduction in pad taper. The pad will wear on an angle normally, and more, differently-sized pistons even out the pressure applied by the caliper. The 00R calipers are only 4 piston, but they don't taper the pad, even if you go through an entire set of pads in an afternoon.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, a 13" kit with the stock rotors and the 00R Brembo calipers will get you more brakes than you'll be able to ever use on the street.</p><p></p><p>What matters more on a street car is pad selection. Street cars don't get into the operating range of racing brake parts. Street cars need a buttery-soft pad that doesn't need any heat built into it in order to work. Most people think high performance brakes will make the passenger kiss the windshield when the driver barely touches the pedal. That's simply not the case, and that behavior can be achieved by choosing the appropriate brake pad.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />epper:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShelbyGuy, post: 6839643, member: 10042"] Actually, the contact patch of the tire is the [i]first[/i] link in the chain, not the final. Once the wheel has locked up, the brakes are doing nothing. As far as calipers and rotor discs go, the farther out from the hub you have the caliper, the more torque it can exert on the rotor disc. A 14" brake kit will have substantially better braking power than a 13" kit. The next thing in line to affect braking performance is the width of the brake pad. A wide [long?] pad has more contact with the rotor disc surface so it can both apply pressure over a greater area, and also absorb more heat than a narrower pad. Brakes are all about converting friction into heat and then dissipating that. Ideally you want the thickest pad you can run not just because it will last the longest, but your braking performance decreases exponentially once the pad has worn beyond 50% of its useful life. The pad itself is what transfers the heat away from the rotor disc. 6 piston calipers, while being fully buzzword-compliant, don't really gain you anything other than a reduction in pad taper. The pad will wear on an angle normally, and more, differently-sized pistons even out the pressure applied by the caliper. The 00R calipers are only 4 piston, but they don't taper the pad, even if you go through an entire set of pads in an afternoon. Bottom line, a 13" kit with the stock rotors and the 00R Brembo calipers will get you more brakes than you'll be able to ever use on the street. What matters more on a street car is pad selection. Street cars don't get into the operating range of racing brake parts. Street cars need a buttery-soft pad that doesn't need any heat built into it in order to work. Most people think high performance brakes will make the passenger kiss the windshield when the driver barely touches the pedal. That's simply not the case, and that behavior can be achieved by choosing the appropriate brake pad. :pepper: [/QUOTE]
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