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<blockquote data-quote="Flying Fred" data-source="post: 6540706" data-attributes="member: 12115"><p>Good topic Brian. I know we had a "mild disagreement" in the NASA AI forum about a related subject. Here's where I stand:</p><p>I already had my R and open tracked it for 4 years. I immensly enjoyed the people and social aspects of those events, but frankly was getting bored with the on track stuff. Limited passing (and sometimes with rules that made little sense), no control over who ran in advanced classes, congo lines, lack of competition, etc. had me wanting more. I tried NASA's TT and that got me ready for the plunge. In fact, Ted, you and I were all experiencing and talking about the same thing at the same time.</p><p></p><p>I didn't want to ditch the R and buying a race car was not in the plans for me. With my limited mechanical skills and resources, it would have been too difficult for me to keep a race car and the R both going. (I probably would have needed to hire Doug full time!) I chose to modify my R into a race car. I knew I would never be competitive in AIX, but that was OK because my "racing goal" was to do the above things I mentioned that you can't do in OT events. As it turned out my car is similar to the better AI cars, so I actually do get some competition (though out of my class) with guys like Dave, Dean, you and about 6 others that I won't list here.</p><p></p><p>As you observed, converting my car cost was costly and a whole host of problems kept me sidelined a lot. Ted took a different approach of building a car from scratch. He too put far more $ into it and had even worse problems than I did (well, except for my fire incident). You took yet another approach and decided to buy a proven winner, well sorted car so you could be competitive.</p><p></p><p>So back to your original question. If you were to go out and buy an R for AI, which one? For me, I personally wouldn't buy ANY if my goal was to be competitive. Why? I feel you are going to pay more to buy an R because they are limited - but IMHO none of them offer a great advantage over a non-R Mustang.... especially if you buy a well sorted, proven one. I would do what you did or else buy a reasonably priced Mustang and build from there.</p><p></p><p>This may have not answered the question exactly as you phrased it, but it's my 2 cents worth on what I would do if I were starting all over with the intent on being AI competitive.</p><p>:beer:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flying Fred, post: 6540706, member: 12115"] Good topic Brian. I know we had a "mild disagreement" in the NASA AI forum about a related subject. Here's where I stand: I already had my R and open tracked it for 4 years. I immensly enjoyed the people and social aspects of those events, but frankly was getting bored with the on track stuff. Limited passing (and sometimes with rules that made little sense), no control over who ran in advanced classes, congo lines, lack of competition, etc. had me wanting more. I tried NASA's TT and that got me ready for the plunge. In fact, Ted, you and I were all experiencing and talking about the same thing at the same time. I didn't want to ditch the R and buying a race car was not in the plans for me. With my limited mechanical skills and resources, it would have been too difficult for me to keep a race car and the R both going. (I probably would have needed to hire Doug full time!) I chose to modify my R into a race car. I knew I would never be competitive in AIX, but that was OK because my "racing goal" was to do the above things I mentioned that you can't do in OT events. As it turned out my car is similar to the better AI cars, so I actually do get some competition (though out of my class) with guys like Dave, Dean, you and about 6 others that I won't list here. As you observed, converting my car cost was costly and a whole host of problems kept me sidelined a lot. Ted took a different approach of building a car from scratch. He too put far more $ into it and had even worse problems than I did (well, except for my fire incident). You took yet another approach and decided to buy a proven winner, well sorted car so you could be competitive. So back to your original question. If you were to go out and buy an R for AI, which one? For me, I personally wouldn't buy ANY if my goal was to be competitive. Why? I feel you are going to pay more to buy an R because they are limited - but IMHO none of them offer a great advantage over a non-R Mustang.... especially if you buy a well sorted, proven one. I would do what you did or else buy a reasonably priced Mustang and build from there. This may have not answered the question exactly as you phrased it, but it's my 2 cents worth on what I would do if I were starting all over with the intent on being AI competitive. :beer: [/QUOTE]
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