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  1. nofire

    nofire Sooner#65 Premium Member Established Member

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    The CM1600 package from Calvo costs around $135k.

    Not including the price of the GenV Viper it goes on. lol
     
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  2. 99BOSS

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    Im guessing the guys at Underground racing would prove that wrong. Im pretty sure their Huracans are making more than 400 ft/lbs at launch
     
  3. 72SBC

    72SBC Doesn’t care Established Member

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    Just making the point that no one is winning big dog races and driving around the country with little lawn mower engines. The big boys are racing big engines.
     
  4. gofast15

    gofast15 Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I'm pretty sure you watch too much crap on the internet , go out and do some racing /testing on your own. I have not seen a single launch by UGR car on the street besides prepped drag strip on drag radials .
     
  5. 99BOSS

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    Oh I do plenty of racing, on the street and track and I know more torque is always better than less. Lots of vids of UGR's cars on streets and unprepped runways and they're getting it down just fine. A great tire is the key, not less torque. If your car made a lot more torque and you hooked it with a drag radial, you'd go faster, simple as that and you know it, cant argue otherwise. Im tired of stating the obvious but you believe whatever you want.
     
  6. Recon

    Recon Well-Known Member Established Member

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    If I’m not mistaken there’s at least 2 vipers with claimed over 3000hp. I don’t think they’ve proven the claim, but I’d be surprised if that V10 isn’t capable of that number.
    Carry on.


    Pick your poison.
     
  7. gimmie11s

    gimmie11s Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Wrong.

    It’s simple math/science. All other things equal, it is always he with more horsepower that wins, not torque.

    Outright torque is meaningless.

    It is tq over time (Aka horsepower) that you want.


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    03cobra#694 Want to play a game? Staff Member Super Moderator

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    He likes to argue, and is starting to get special attention.
     
  9. Makobra

    Makobra Well-Known Member Established Member

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    yeah, basically. at that level everything is so modified you're just arguing about displacement and number of cylinders which is just a math problem at that point.
     
  10. 72SBC

    72SBC Doesn’t care Established Member

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    Correct, bigger motors produce more Useable hp through the whole power band, that’s why a 1600hp viper walks a 1600hp gtr. A viper at 3k is probably making 900hp while the gtr is making 400. (For a rough example) It’s making more power at any given rpm.

    I would be interested to see a de-stroked viper reving to 10k with some turbos though. It would still be 7+ liters probably. However the current 9.0 set ups are going to 8k so the loss of cubic inches might not be worth it.
     
  11. MinGrey02Stg2

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    Sal Patel's Gen 2 is right up there and has been a record holder for years in different rwd classes.


    Then "The General" by Calvo is apparently making a comeback with 3k+ hp.
     
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  12. gimmie11s

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    Nope. If both cars have the same HP, weigh the same, have similar traction, and similar gearing, they will both trap within a mph or 2 of each other even though the viper would have significantly more torque.

    This is a very simple math problem that I schooled you on last time yet you refuse to listen.

    Because torques bro!!!


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  13. gimmie11s

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    2 closely HP matched cars and the baby torque GTR pushes his shit in.

    There are countless examples of this


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  14. 72SBC

    72SBC Doesn’t care Established Member

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    but we live in the real world where nothing is equal bruh. That’s why big blocks/big inch motors have been clappin cheeks for over 60 years.
     
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    Never mind, this thread has gone sideways.
     
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    True. But there are lots of examples proving the point with equal enough vehicles (video above).

    Do you think a 3900 lb worked over diesel truck with 750whp/1500 wtq would stand a chance against a 900whp/760tq mustang?

    The obvious answer is no.


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  17. 99BOSS

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    Those are 2 obviously different vehicles and different aerodynamic profiles. You take 2 mustangs, say one with a boosted coyote, 900 HP and whatever TQ it can put out and the other stang has a N/A built big block ford in it, like a Kaase power plant, similar HP levels but the BBF has more torque over a much broader area, it'll win. Its power under the curve.
    Just for reference, a Kaase BBF can make 900-1000 HP all motor but its gonna make 900 ft/lbs of TQ. Both cars on slicks or DRs. That coyote is gonna get plowed. It was posted above that this thread has gone off track and it has. This should be about the Calvo viper and the GTR, not this sidebar, but I digress...
     
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  18. Black02GT

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    Not that I really want to get involved in this abortion but that was roll race with both cars being in the power band (upper RPM). HP is just a function of torque over RPM so yes two equal cars with equal HP, weight and equal blah blah getting on it in the power band will be "equal". Torque is really only noticeable and makes cars feel faster in the lower RPM range before the curves cross. I love the Torque vs HP argument when people don't realize one number drives the other. 5252 is a constant, rest is just multiply two numbers, pretty basic math. Not disagreeing just picked you to quote since you're the active one.
     
  19. stangfreak

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    exactly. smaller the motor, more stress and the life of the engine isn't that great. Nobody reads the fine lines or knows what that owner has to do to maintain a million hp evo lets say or civic. Thts why the internet creates lots of dreams.
     
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    lol I see that

     

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