Changing from BAMA regular tune to the hybrid tune

[old_goat]

Back in April, I made a choice to move to the BAMA tune (from AM naturally) using the SCT tuner.

My 3 tunes were an 87 tune for economy, a 93 preformance tune for daily driving, and a 93 race tune for track nights. The difference between the 93 performance and 93 race was that the 93 race was set up for running catless and with 275x40x17 Nitto NT05R drag radials.

I've never done any datalogs before and I try to set up my new laptop for logging the car. However my laptop has windows 8 running it and it took a bit of help from some members here and another Mustang site to get my act together and make up some data logs for the good people at American Muscle. Here is a quick report on what the data logs indicated.

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Tune looks good, no knock and the trims look quite good.
That being said, give this tune a shot. You can see on the log after around 5700 load drops off sharply, typical of the stock manifold. Im not a boss manifold kind of guy but that does help if you want to spin the motor out more. Load wont drop off sharply like that anymore. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Well, I'm not a tuner and can't see anything from the data logs except a bunch of lines doing something.

They sent me one tune that is a 93H tune, which is basically a hybrid 93 tune, and they will send me one early next week for the same tune, but with catless and the Nitto drag radials as a part of the tune. I guess I'll call the one sent 93H_P and the new one 93H_R. (sorry about the font size being changed)

Summers in the Houston area are hell on wheels and the temps right now are flirting at 100 degrees, I never take my car to the track in this terrible weather as I don't want to unnecessarily beat on the car without any chance of getting a PB.

I may make 2-3 passes to data log them and then send AM back the updated results, but time will tell. I don't think that making 2-3 passes in August weather will hurt anything, but unless I hit my first ever 11 second pass (wishful thinking

) I won't make anything more than that.

 

[nosympathy]

I wish you luck data logging with Bama, all that got me was my idle raised from 750rpm to 900rpm because they didn't know how to fix the surging issue they created on the lastest tunes and the car would almost stall at 750rpm idle all the time. So at 900 it wouldn't surge and drop the rpms low enough to stall.

This was post Boss IM and JLT CAI that netted me a whopping -20HP peak and -50TQ peak gains. Yes...that is negative gains...with the bama tunes. I expected to loose some TQ, but HP too? I had HP loss throughout the entire power band. And almost dare to say what torque.

I dumped them that day after getting the data logged revision tunes and the car running no different minus the idle rpm changes and contacted shaun at AED and have had a perfectly running far stronger car since with zero surging. No changes to the car itself have been made, just the tune.

Even though I didn't get a chance to dyno with the AED tune, and would be a different day/humidity/etc. I can promise you I gained back and more what I lost.

:beer:

 

[hopony]

I have had no trouble with my bama tune makes good power and no issues.

 

[VETTEHUNTER]

Bama has impressed me so far. Got my last tune request within 3 hours of placing the order.

 

[Elwood617]

I have to say that I have found a local guy here in NC that is amazing at tuning the Coyote. I tried BBR and John Lund. My tune by Jeff at P51 performance is much better in every way. With the BBR tune I had drivability issues and and the Lund tune was a little down on power. My new tune from Jeff is simply better than those tunes in every way. It has the smooth throttle response of the Lund tune and more power than both of my previous tunes. My trap speeds with my tune by Jeff is 121.6 to 121.9 compared to my BBR trap speed of 120.6 and Lund tune of 120.4
And it is amazingly smooth! no abrupt throttle response, no hanging idle. Just a great throttle response and tons of power

 

[throthaduece85]

my bama tune runs fine, but theres plenty left on the table and they have no desire to crank the knob. they did the revision for my OR H pipe within a few hours, same when i had a DTC relating to the PCM. Bottom line, you get what you pay for. With the forum discount, I got my SCT tuner shipped for under 360. I cant bitch on that note. KoolAid coming soon.

 

[AMDanBailer]

Back in April, I made a choice to move to the BAMA tune (from AM naturally) using the SCT tuner.

My 3 tunes were an 87 tune for economy, a 93 preformance tune for daily driving, and a 93 race tune for track nights. The difference between the 93 performance and 93 race was that the 93 race was set up for running catless and with 275x40x17 Nitto NT05R drag radials.

I've never done any datalogs before and I try to set up my new laptop for logging the car. However my laptop has windows 8 running it and it took a bit of help from some members here and another Mustang site to get my act together and make up some data logs for the good people at American Muscle. Here is a quick report on what the data logs indicated.

They sent me one tune that is a 93H tune, which is basically a hybrid 93 tune, and they will send me one early next week for the same tune, but with catless and the Nitto drag radials as a part of the tune. I guess I'll call the one sent 93H_P and the new one 93H_R. (sorry about the font size being changed)

Summers in the Houston area are hell on wheels and the temps right now are flirting at 100 degrees, I never take my car to the track in this terrible weather as I don't want to unnecessarily beat on the car without any chance of getting a PB.

I may make 2-3 passes to data log them and then send AM back the updated results, but time will tell. I don't think that making 2-3 passes in August weather will hurt anything, but unless I hit my first ever 11 second pass (wishful thinking

) I won't make anything more than that.

Keep up the great work with your build! You're getting dangerously close to the 11 sec mark, that's really cool. Please let me know if you have any questions about Datalogging or have some questions, we can definitely help you out!

Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 9AM-5:30PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

-Dan

 

[kcsvt94l]

Have to say, after running a Bama tune for over a year. Switching to AED was an extreme difference in the way the car feels. Overall drivability is improved, shockingly just regular driving is a very noticeable difference. As for power, Shaun is amazing! Power use to be lackluster until about 5k RPM. Now, about 3100+ is screaming all the way to 7800. While "Peak" #'s may not have changed drastically, the power is WAY up through the curve.

 

[old_goat]

This is what AM's Dan told me..........

They Hybrid tune is basically a mix between all 3 tunes. It has the low End grunt of the Street tune, Mid range of the Performance tune and top end of the Race tune!

Well, last night I installed the 93 hybrid performance tune, and I also have a 93 hybrid race tune. The race has parameters for 17 inch Nitto NT05R drag radials and for running catless, but right now I'm on daily Pirelli 18 X 8 tires and running with cats.

After tuning, I made a trip out to a local quite road and ran through a couple of 0-65 sprints. The seat of the pants was highly impressed, but I don't really go by seat of the pants. I would take the car out to Royal Purple tonight, but the Houston Texans are on TV and the heat index at 6-8 PM will be >100. I just don't want to beat on the car with the terrible heat wave we're in the middle of.

What I found out last night. One thing, rear wheels wouldn't grip, I mean I was making a total smoke show. Spinning ain't winning, so in order to get a good launch at the track, I would have to put on the Nitto's and use the 93 hybrid race tune. Once I got past the launch problems, I left the TC on, versus turning it off, the tach dove toward the red line. I think they MAY have extended the shift point to 7000-7200 versus shifting at 6800-7000. I don't think I got any 'scratch' shifting from 1-2, which I miss from my prior cars.

Yes, the seat of the pants was extremely pleased, but we'll find out in November-April (when I will make some trips to Royal Purple) what real world difference this hybrid tune is versus the everyday Bama 93 race tune.

If any AM Bama customer wants to try this, I would highly suggest to, after all, it's free. There's nothing to lose but time.

 

[Drufuss]

I've never heard of the hybrid tune. I'm putting the ORX pipe on next week and spoke with bama today about a couple new tunes. The tech didn't mention anything about it, so maybe ill talk to them Monday. I'm glad you mentioned it.
My current bama tune is the 93race with a CAI, and I have the 750rpm stall thing going on, so hopefully the new one won't have that issue. Regardless, I will say AM and bama have nothing less than top notch customer service. I'll probably end up with an AED, but I'll never regret purchasing my SCT with AM and bama

 

[Drufuss]

Have to say, after running a Bama tune for over a year. Switching to AED was an extreme difference in the way the car feels. Overall drivability is improved, shockingly just regular driving is a very noticeable difference. As for power, Shaun is amazing! Power use to be lackluster until about 5k RPM. Now, about 3100+ is screaming all the way to 7800. While "Peak" #'s may not have changed drastically, the power is WAY up through the curve.

7800!!! You sir are a bad ass.