Just wanted to let folks know of a product I just used and was absolutley thrilled with. I have never clay barred my car and have owned it since new. We wax it twice a year with good old New Finish in the big orange bottle. It is a DD with 78K miles and the paint was showing the wear. It was in the desert in El Paso Tx for 5 of those years and I don't know of many places with harsher environments. I did some research and decided on the Hamber-Bilt Soft Clay bar. $20.00 for 200 grams. I ordered it from HS Tuning in Ohio. I think they are the only US distributors of this UK product. I chose this particular bar because it was rated very high in the reviews and it DOES NOT use surficants for lubrication just water. I used distilled water due to the hardness of the local water. I am an old guy and am very anal about the products I use on my "Mid Life Crisis" Terminator. LOL!!! I can honestly say this product made the paint feel like glass. It was wonderful. I haven't seen the paint look this wet and deep in many years. Here is the link if you want to check it out. I ordered the soft bar because it is more maleable. Search | Auto Express. To order HS Tuning - Bilt Hamber auto-clay regular. :rolling: