I've tried buying a car at a thousand bucks over invoice here in Orlando, FL. Never really happened. In fact, every dealership I've ever been to here says we'll give you a great deal, next thing you know they haven't taken one penny off MSRP and I have to leave 4 hours later wondering what the hell just happened while the salesman was runing in and out of his manager's office??? Every time they come back the deal gets worse????