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<blockquote data-quote="mustangc" data-source="post: 10454519" data-attributes="member: 87570"><p>None of the above make any sense, IMHO.</p><p></p><p><u>Ecoboost 4-pot</u> - The 3.7L V6 in the Mustang already gets 31 mpg. The 2.0 Ecoboost in the 2012 Focus ST is the highest performance version seen to date, and it only makes 250 horsepower. That's fine for a B-series subcompact car, but is a huge backwards step for the portly Mustang. Sure it may get slightly better mileage, but that's more of a priority for the Focus owner. Good mileage is important, but the BEST mileage isn't as important for the Mustang shopper. If they turn it into an eco-goober econocar... it isn't a Mustang anymore, regardless of what the badge says. Now if the 2015 Mustang gets smaller, I wouldn't put it past Ford to try this motor... let's face it, they were stupid enough to produce the Mustang II and the Probe (which was ALMOST the Mustang, had it not been for us enthusiasts telling them they were idiots and John Coletti stepping in to save us).</p><p></p><p><u>Ecoboost V6</u> - This is a possibility, but doesn't differentiate itself enough from the 5.0 V8. The Ecoboost makes 365 horsepower compared to 412 for the 5.0. The EB can be bumped up in power. So can the 5.0. The Ecoboost does have superior torque production and slightly better mileage, but it is also more expensive and doesn't have that V-8 sound. It may also be a little lighter than the 5.0, but once again, the difference is so small that one engine would simply cannibalize sales from the other, not generate many new sales. And lets face it, the Mustang GT needs an everyday V8, or else it is not a Mustang... so the 5.0 isn't going anywhere. There simply isn't room in the lineup for both unless the EB can differentiate itself more. I don't see it happening.</p><p></p><p><u>Ecoboost V8</u> - This one sounds the most promising, and may become the flagship engine. An Ecoboost 5.0 could match the S/C 5.4 in ultimate power production at a significantly improved fuel economy. However, the comments you posted indicate that (at least in the current configuration) fitment is a significant issue. In the example you quoted, the turbos would have to move to the top of the motor. This packaging is possible in the 6.7 Powerstroke because the exhaust exits the cylinder-head on the inside the V, not on the outside. This would require a significant redesign of the engine platform. As with the EB I-4, the fitment may be less of a hurdle in the next generation 'Stang, so perhaps EBV8 is the most likely candidate of the three to see production.</p><p></p><p>Now just my personal opinion, I like the current engine choices a lot. I prefer supercharging over turbocharging in spite of all of the drawbacks. It just seems more <u>American</u>...more <u>Mustang</u></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mustangc, post: 10454519, member: 87570"] None of the above make any sense, IMHO. [U]Ecoboost 4-pot[/U] - The 3.7L V6 in the Mustang already gets 31 mpg. The 2.0 Ecoboost in the 2012 Focus ST is the highest performance version seen to date, and it only makes 250 horsepower. That's fine for a B-series subcompact car, but is a huge backwards step for the portly Mustang. Sure it may get slightly better mileage, but that's more of a priority for the Focus owner. Good mileage is important, but the BEST mileage isn't as important for the Mustang shopper. If they turn it into an eco-goober econocar... it isn't a Mustang anymore, regardless of what the badge says. Now if the 2015 Mustang gets smaller, I wouldn't put it past Ford to try this motor... let's face it, they were stupid enough to produce the Mustang II and the Probe (which was ALMOST the Mustang, had it not been for us enthusiasts telling them they were idiots and John Coletti stepping in to save us). [U]Ecoboost V6[/U] - This is a possibility, but doesn't differentiate itself enough from the 5.0 V8. The Ecoboost makes 365 horsepower compared to 412 for the 5.0. The EB can be bumped up in power. So can the 5.0. The Ecoboost does have superior torque production and slightly better mileage, but it is also more expensive and doesn't have that V-8 sound. It may also be a little lighter than the 5.0, but once again, the difference is so small that one engine would simply cannibalize sales from the other, not generate many new sales. And lets face it, the Mustang GT needs an everyday V8, or else it is not a Mustang... so the 5.0 isn't going anywhere. There simply isn't room in the lineup for both unless the EB can differentiate itself more. I don't see it happening. [U]Ecoboost V8[/U] - This one sounds the most promising, and may become the flagship engine. An Ecoboost 5.0 could match the S/C 5.4 in ultimate power production at a significantly improved fuel economy. However, the comments you posted indicate that (at least in the current configuration) fitment is a significant issue. In the example you quoted, the turbos would have to move to the top of the motor. This packaging is possible in the 6.7 Powerstroke because the exhaust exits the cylinder-head on the inside the V, not on the outside. This would require a significant redesign of the engine platform. As with the EB I-4, the fitment may be less of a hurdle in the next generation 'Stang, so perhaps EBV8 is the most likely candidate of the three to see production. Now just my personal opinion, I like the current engine choices a lot. I prefer supercharging over turbocharging in spite of all of the drawbacks. It just seems more [U]American[/U]...more [U]Mustang[/U] [/QUOTE]
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