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I drove a model S a few years ago that belonged to a friend. Its 0-06 time was 2.5 seconds apparently.
For me, it was fun, but I was bored after 30 mins. It was soulless and numb. Fit and finish was ok, overall the design was good. Point is, for me, no thanks. There is more to it (for me) then a fast 0-60 or the latest technology. Quite a bit more. At this point (and I really don't see that changing) EV's are just not for me in terms of an exciting hotrod. Different strokes.
EV's are the future and they will only get better. There is a lot to work out such as the grid, mining batteries, production and disposal. They aren't "Green" as of yet but it will get there.
“ev’s are the future”
If they are sooooo great then lets take away the carbon credit money transfers and government funding/tax breaks and see what the market says.
If they are sooooo great then lets take away the carbon credit money transfers and government funding/tax breaks and see what the market says.
For me an EV is not about performance, although my brother in laws Tesla 3 has duel motors and is the fastest car I’ve ever driven. I didn’t like the whole auto drive thing though. But my Fusion Energi is a great mix of economy and Luxury. It has plenty of get up and good and I get around 800 miles on a tank. (13 gal.)
I would buy one today as is.
Change in engines is going to happen sooner than later. Crude will always be pumped out of the earth as too many idiots don't realize how many applications use crude.
Tires, solvents, roofing material, candles, plastics, asphalt etc...
Change in engines is going to happen sooner than later. Crude will always be pumped out of the earth as too many idiots don't realize how many applications use crude.
Tires, solvents, roofing material, candles, plastics, asphalt etc...
I'm not into the EV idea/trend at all. I can't see myself ever owning one. As an enthusiast, there is so much more to enjoy/experience than just acceleration. I've never been in a Tesla or equivalent EV, but I imagine the dash to 60 and the 1/4 mile, while impressive, is lacking.
For me, as well as many others, I enjoy sitting at a stop light while the cam/s shakes the car. The exhaust pounding the ground. The smell of ethanol or leaded race gas. Who doesn't smile when they smell C-16?
I've had my '97 Cobra for 10 1/2 years and it still has the Mach 460 stereo system. I don't know if it still works. I never turn it on. When the engine is turned on, the windows go down. There are so many sensations that make up the experience we chase with this hobby. Mere numbers are such a small part of it.
I enjoy feeling everything, smelling everything, and hearing everything.
An EV leaves most everything out.
For me, as well as many others, I enjoy sitting at a stop light while the cam/s shakes the car. The exhaust pounding the ground. The smell of ethanol or leaded race gas. Who doesn't smile when they smell C-16?
I've had my '97 Cobra for 10 1/2 years and it still has the Mach 460 stereo system. I don't know if it still works. I never turn it on. When the engine is turned on, the windows go down. There are so many sensations that make up the experience we chase with this hobby. Mere numbers are such a small part of it.
I enjoy feeling everything, smelling everything, and hearing everything.
An EV leaves most everything out.
Electric karts exist and they're terrible. Too much weight, sloppy handling, horrible braking. They have gobs of torque but battery weight is prohibitive. I'm not opposed to EV's but they have a LONG way to go before they're viable none the less fun.
An electric Go-Kart that is twice as fast as a current gas powered shifter would likely kill a man. I'm not worried about electric tech beating the 2 strokes because we are already at the limits of the human body.
I think this Tesla looks very nice! Great color and wheels!
Some comments:
DoctaM3
1 year ago
This is gonna be killer. just look at it!
MatesSk0071 year ago
Wide body looks insane. If they get the interior right it will sell like hot cakes.
ajcsanders1 year ago (edited)
The sound that thing makes! Is it just me or does it look absolutely stunning? Edit: read through the comments - it's not not just me ;-)
BlackTalon531 year ago
That thing looks meaner than ten pitbulls.
Some comments:
DoctaM3
1 year ago
This is gonna be killer. just look at it!
MatesSk0071 year ago
Wide body looks insane. If they get the interior right it will sell like hot cakes.
ajcsanders1 year ago (edited)
The sound that thing makes! Is it just me or does it look absolutely stunning? Edit: read through the comments - it's not not just me ;-)
BlackTalon531 year ago
That thing looks meaner than ten pitbulls.
Ford, GM have to go EV so they can keep up with Tesla's 1/4 and 0-60 times
I hope someone develops an aftermarket electric conversion kit for all the different years of mustangs past and present.
As fun as manuals are, EV don't need gearing. You're applying an old time solution to a modern day problem that doesn't exist.
As for buying one, even Elon says we lack the power grid for mass EVs. Look at CA, can't keep the lights on, but somehow we're gonna stop selling gassers in 14yrs? Just watch when even 5% of cars on the road are EV when people start crying about not being able to drive their car because powers out. Then again, with what's happening economically and politically, maybe that's the plan, we all won't need to go anywhere for anything anymore, so an EV or not is all a moot point.
As for buying one, even Elon says we lack the power grid for mass EVs. Look at CA, can't keep the lights on, but somehow we're gonna stop selling gassers in 14yrs? Just watch when even 5% of cars on the road are EV when people start crying about not being able to drive their car because powers out. Then again, with what's happening economically and politically, maybe that's the plan, we all won't need to go anywhere for anything anymore, so an EV or not is all a moot point.
I often thought about a battery quick swap station down the road. The station keeps precharged batteries and takes out the old one, sort of like a giant flashlight.
I am a proponent of longer range also. Nothing would suck more than driving all day and not having a station near a hotel or no secure way to charge at the hotel. Perhaps parking spots can induce charges like phone chargers you lay the phone on.
OK Bozos, stop clowning around.
I am a proponent of longer range also. Nothing would suck more than driving all day and not having a station near a hotel or no secure way to charge at the hotel. Perhaps parking spots can induce charges like phone chargers you lay the phone on.
OK Bozos, stop clowning around.
Everyone touts "Well it's faster than your gas guzzler! Get with the program, grandpa! You don't need it to have soul!" But that's such a myopic view. For me they still have yet to deliver on a number of variables. I won't deny they're quick. But quick comes at the expensive of range, which already isn't great. And that wouldn't even be much of an issue if they could charge faster. Factor in the cost, and it's not a good combination. They would be great for a small in town commuter to run errands, but that's only a small set of the population, and they're still not cheap enough for that.
For me to seriously consider them they would need to have-
After doing some computer shopping I wonder how much that will hold out. It seems that with software taking ever more capability to run and hardware not progressing as fast as it used to nor getting as cheap as it used to. EVs have certainly come a vast way to the point that they're even remotely viable now, but they still have a way to go to be the truly only option.
Part of me wonders how much it's going to sap the point and fun out of racing. If everyone has perfect traction all the time and just has to mash the skinny pedal, what's the point? But then again, if EVs are going to be the only way, they're likely going to be paired with auto driving features and nannies that will make it all but impossible to achieve.
Makes me think about some future business opportunities... There's certainly a market for the rich wanting electric restomods.
And where I work they already offer electrification powertrain kits, albeit for much bigger vehicles.
For me to seriously consider them they would need to have-
- Performance
- Range
- Quick charging time
- Higher GVW capability
- Cost
After doing some computer shopping I wonder how much that will hold out. It seems that with software taking ever more capability to run and hardware not progressing as fast as it used to nor getting as cheap as it used to. EVs have certainly come a vast way to the point that they're even remotely viable now, but they still have a way to go to be the truly only option.
Part of me wonders how much it's going to sap the point and fun out of racing. If everyone has perfect traction all the time and just has to mash the skinny pedal, what's the point? But then again, if EVs are going to be the only way, they're likely going to be paired with auto driving features and nannies that will make it all but impossible to achieve.
Makes me think about some future business opportunities... There's certainly a market for the rich wanting electric restomods.
And where I work they already offer electrification powertrain kits, albeit for much bigger vehicles.
I’ll find that person and kick them in the knee
I think there's a good chance that by the time they're widespread and viable it's going to be autonomous driving anyway. And with that the transition from private ownership to fleet rental on demand service. Owning a car much less a gasoline one will be a rarity for the rich hobbyist. They'll be the equivalent of today's horse girls.
That's 4 seconds faster than a McLaren 12c......which would you rather drive on the track?
People get too wrapped up in bench racing times.
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