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Installing ATS Brembos on the Cobra.

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  1. GodStang

    GodStang Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Good call. I know zero about Caddys and thought the car was called ATS-V did not know that it was a separate car than the ATS. Glad I got the part numbers in there. They are the J55 Brembo's for the Turbo 4 cylinder ATS.

    As far as Z23 instead of Z26 I have no clue. Lack of sleep I guess. I thought I ordered Z26.
     
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    SVT_Troy Well-Known Member Established Member

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    I cant help but notice but did whoever that took the caliper weight difference photos weigh the oem cobra caliper loaded with pads and the new ATS caliper without the pads and pad retaining pins?
     
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    Good eye.


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  4. GodStang

    GodStang Well-Known Member Established Member

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    That was me. I was in a rush did not ever think about that. I will redo the picture when I get back to the shop.
     
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    SVT_Troy Well-Known Member Established Member

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    Awesome thanks a lot!


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  6. Street Warrior

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    Are these measurements for the caliper and pads "General" or something I can go off of and not mock up?
     
  8. GodStang

    GodStang Well-Known Member Established Member

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    The milling of the .075" is what is needed to center the rotor in the caliper once mounted so it needs to be level and exact that is why I recommend a milling or CNC machine. The 6mm off the top of the pad is a estimate that Alan gave when he did his. I measured 6mm off the top all the way across and it came out perfect.

    I am hoping this correct answered your question.
     
  9. Street Warrior

    Street Warrior SVT Power Established Member

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    Perfect,
    I work at an Engine / Machine shop and can have one of the guys do the work.
    Thanks again for posting this upgrade.
     
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    Any updates on brakes? How are the pads / rotors wearing?
     
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    Street Warrior SVT Power Established Member

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    Little update on my findings.
    First little background on my application. I did a Terminator swap into my Fox and pretty much everything I’ve done has been a challenge and time consuming. My OCD might have a little to do with it.

    Factory tolerance will vary from one car to another with the spindle since it was designed for a floater application and didn’t matter much. Now with a fixed caliper I wanted to ensure everything was a close as possible.

    On the spindles, drilling out the holes with a 9/16 bit on the car needs to be done with care. I dined do so well on the driver side but ok on the passenger side. This will help in opening the holes to accept the caliper. I would have done this off the car if possible.

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    Now machining the caliper to center it to the rotor. My driver side needed .085 off and the passenger side needed .070 off. Got to love factory tolerances. I highly recommend measuring both side and having a machine shop cut the calipers.

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    I ended up with .113 - .118 of gap between the caliper and rotor checking on all side. I’m ok with that.

    Now onto the brake pads, I’m going to try and find something that fits rather than cut them. The ATS pads are thin also since they have a thicker rotor than the Cobra.
     
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    Any updated? Let us know if find something
     
  13. GodStang

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    I have not driven it a lot but I love them. They really stop much much better and I think if I got the Z26 instead it would be that much better.

    Awesome info and thanks for the pictures! Please keep us updated if you find a better pad.
     
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    Guys, no luck finding a pad that will work, maybe a 13.5" rotor would be good....
    Anyway, for those of you going to try and cut the pads, take you time. I used a cut of wheel and f$^&** up the pads, so onto my second set. These things cut like butter which surprised the hell out of me. Now that I got my wheel stud and spacer situation sorted, I can get everything mounted up and scribe the pads for an accurate cut. My wheels have the wrong offset thanks to TF.
    Here's what she looks like so far. Excuse the mess in the wheel well - still work in process.
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    Looks great so far and use the pads cut super quick.
     
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    I like your post, but I think TF is out of business cause Steve’s wife has cancer.


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    Got the calipers painted and stickered up. I scribed the pads while mocked up in the calipers and then had them cut in the mill for a nice clean cut, helps working in a machine shop. Should finish the install this weekend and hopefully drive the car to work Monday.

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    In your opinion, would there be enough room to run a 14" disc with the calipers the way theyre being mounted? Or if not, could you clearence the calipers to fit one in?
     
  19. GodStang

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    If you look at how close the rotor is to the clip on a 13" without a bracket to set it out I don't see how 14" would be possible.

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    Love this thread.
     
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