There was thread going a week ago about MagnaFlow 4" rolled tips. There was a discussion going about MagnaFlow part #35117(?) 18" long 4" diameter rolled tip. A few people said the 18" tip was too long and would stick out too far past the rear bumper and look bad. Unfortunately it rained today, my car got dirty, and I didn't take any pics yet........but I got the tips put on and they fit just as good as the regular Magnaflow tip that comes w/ the cat-back. You can have them sit out as short as the stocks tips do if you want. I love them. They don't look as big as I was afraid they would. I can post pics tomorrow evening if you want. I'm sure someone else has pics though. Just wanted to clear the air and let anyone interested or considering in these know that the 18" long tips WILL fit fine. I actually have 1/2" of pipe left that I could've used to make them sit even shorter. Sounds just a little deeper too!