P0411 and P0153

[KotnmthKng]

My car is throwing P0411 Secondary Air Injection System Flow Improper, and P0153 Upstream Heated Oxygen Sensor circuit Slow Response - Bank No. 2.

I know the 0411 is because the smog pump isnt hooked up, but could that also be causing the 0153? Or is the o2 going bad? Also my gas mileage has recently gone down about 20-30 miles per tank.

 

[SVTStrikesBack]

Try resetting the unit and see if it comes back. I don't think that PO411 should set it off, but the way it sounds, PO153 is a sensor for a sensor, that is a check to make sure the sensor is working correctly.

On my handy list of diagnosing, these are the supposed causes:

Contaminated HO2S sensor.
* Exhaust leaks.
* Shorted /open wiring.
* Improper fueling.
* MAF sensor.
* Deteriorating HO2S sensor.
* Inlet air leaks.

 

[STAMPEDE3]

The 0153 will probably be the O2 itself.

 

[KotnmthKng]

Thanks Stampede3.

I do have a slight header gasket leak that I plan on taking care of asap. But I'm going to replace the front O2's and see if that clears the code.

 

[STAMPEDE3]

If the gasket leak is in front of the O2 it is possible that it is causing it.

Most likely you would get a lean code though, not the slow response.

 

[Red98CobraStang]

I had the 0411 code and its because of the LT's on the car. Just take it to a tuner and have them shut off the SAI. Its useless anyways when you run longtubes since the o2 is now back farther from the heads. the SAI system helps to heat up the o2 sensors.

 

[KotnmthKng]

Thanks Grant, I already knew what the 0411 was. I just wanted to know if that could also cause the 0153 or if my o2 was actually bad.

Now I just need to get a tune.

 

[Red98CobraStang]

NP Mark. For the 0153 code, I believe it means the o2 is ready to take a big fat dump

go on www.corral.net and search for a member named pintoman77 (or something close) and look for his o2 sensor thread. he sells 2 front FORD OEM sensors for 50 shipped, and the rears for an extra 20. They are brand new, sealed sensors. I bought them either last year or two years ago and they are still working perfectly.

 

[bvysochin]

go on www.corral.net and search for a member named pintoman77 (or something close) and look for his o2 sensor thread. he sells 2 front FORD OEM sensors for 50 shipped, and the rears for an extra 20. They are brand new, sealed sensors. I bought them either last year or two years ago and they are still working perfectly.

+1. I've purchased at least 4 or 5 complete sets from him over the last 2 years for various cars we've had. Great guy to do business with. Pintoman351 I believe is his name..

 

[KotnmthKng]

Well it looks like pintoman is out of them right now.

What do you guys think of the ones on oxygensensors.com ? Seems like the next best deal.

 

[KotnmthKng]

Bump, need to get these soon

 

[Red98CobraStang]

www.rockauto.com

amazing prices and fast shipping.

 

[KotnmthKng]

Nice. Upstream are the pre-cat ones right? Does brand matter for these?

 

[KotnmthKng]

bump

 

[STAMPEDE3]

Yes they are the upstream ones.
Most will say OEM only.
Personally I never had issues with other name brands.