a couple months ago i was picking my friend up from school, and on the way home i decided to be a dumbass and pass three cars on the shoulder at like 80 mph... No officer was to be seen, but 15 minutes later i hear a knock at my door. An officer who i had never seen before that claimed to be from the school said that my tags were reported by the people i had passed for what i had done. To make this story short, i was charged with almost $700 in fines and i think 6 points. He even charged me with not wearing a seatbelt, along with reckless endangerment and passing a vehicle while not driving on the road. I have already been to court for this but no witnesses showed up, and the officer told the judge to reschedule it. What can i do about this? And by the way, he told me that because I was coming from a school activity he can charge me with whatever he wanted without seeing it. I want to know if this is a load of crap or what. Thanks in advance.
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did you have to pay any court fines for the first time??
Lawman85
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Well, he did charge you with it, so I guess he can.
I guess Hillie could answer it the best since he is an SRO.
What you did wasn't too smart. :bash: However, that ticket shouldnt hold its own in court. Otherwise, Anybody you pizz off on the road could call the police and make up whatever story they want. They were probably mad because you kicked up stones from the shoulder all over their cars. Not too considerate!
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I agree, not smart. However, I would plea not guilty, the only way the tickets will fly is if the whitnesses show up and chances are they wont and the cop that wrote them will be forced to drop them. You may also get the opportunity to plea to a lesser charge or to plea guilty to one and merge the rest of the summon's into it so you don't get all the points but I dont recommend the last two options unless the whitness show up.
Just to add one comment. If you admitted to the cop that you did in fact pass those vehicles on the right and speeding, then forget option #1 of pleading not guilty and go directly to option two and three.
A cop did that to me also...and i told them that the biatch that reported me was nuts (and she was)....he said, "have a good day", and left :shrug:
for your sake i hopeyou didnt tell the cop you did do it, if you didnt then do what was said and plead not guilty, it's your word versus hers, most likely you will be offered a really good plea bargain, something along the lines of no seatbelt and maybe unsafe driving(no points), just talk to the prosecutor, if you have a good driving record you should get off easy :beer:
Lawman85
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Not hearsay if the witnesses show up to back up what they said.
Ok i am no lawyer and there is no way this can hold up in court. Only way it will hold up in court is if the accuser can produce refuteble proof that YOU did this crime. I mean there are so many ways to win this case i am sure.
bunch of bull, even if the witnesses show up, its not completely against the law to pass on the shoulder. The witnesses are not professionals in that field, and it will be your word against theirs. The officer is worthless in this case, he didnt see, or hear anything. Deny deny deny. But dont do it again!! You should have closed the door in his face, he doesnt stop you in your car, then stay in the house! My thoughts, may not be totally true, have worked for me and people i know though!
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Woah if a cop knocked at my door I would freak out. But yeah, just hope you didn't admit it to him. You could always say you loaned your car to somebody that day. You're not responsible for them nor do you have to give their name.
actually you are responsible for anything that happens with your car. Dont ever let someone borrow a car that you dont completely trust with your life. They hit someone and run, and your going down unless you can prove otherwise. Beware!
Russyo
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next time a cop shows up at the door after you have done something wreckless just don't answere it. If you do answere it then shut the door and make him go get a warrant. He will have one hell of a time getting a warrant without actually being witness to the crime and without any evidence to give him probable cause.
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Civilly responsible yes, but can you be held criminally responsible if it cannot be proven that you were driving?
Next time, don't answer the door. Or order the cop to leave, which he must do if he has not witnessed a crime, pursued you onto your land, or if he does not have a warrant. And some other circumstances I can't remember.
getdrunk2day said:
Call a lawyer and get a free consultation. Your case probably should have been dismissed when no witnesses showed up. If they were subpoened they should be in jail for failing to appear.
How would your having been at school have a damn thing to do with this?
EvergreenSVT said:
Yea, order the cop off your property.........don't even try and be civil. That way he can park down the street and wait until you leave with your family in the car so he can now control the surroundings.
Just accept the citation and take it to court, that's where these things are won or lost. Ordering people off your property makes you King for a moment, and a fool for a much longer period of time.
mswaim said:
Relax, by order I meant to make the distinction between allowing him to hang out and question you and having him leave. Like I've said before, sometimes I'm tired and use the wrong words. I meant order in a legal sense, not that he should be rude.
Is "Reckless Endangerment" a misdemeanor? IIRC in most states an officer cannot arrest/cite for a misdemeanor they have not witnessed, unless another officer witnessed it or they have a warrant. Makes me wonder if the poster ratted on himself.
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