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<blockquote data-quote="RTD" data-source="post: 13606509" data-attributes="member: 121917"><p>I think it's far more likely that we see the application of existing tech from other Ford projects than an all new motor with something exotic like a flat plane crank.</p><p></p><p>Start with the Boss motor at 444hp.</p><p></p><p>Add the Cobra Jet intake manifold and larger throttle body. Add the Cobra Jet intake cams (which were originally developed for the Boss but later dropped for cost savings). They probably won't use the CJ exhaust cams since those were designed for open headers. Add the CJ MAF. Put in an open element CAI and revised tune (Ford has done this before, most recently with the 2010 GT500).</p><p></p><p>At this point you're probably at 505-510 hp.</p><p></p><p>If you want to go higher, add DI and bump the compression ratio by the half point or so that DI allows. All Coyote heads already have the DI boss cast into it, and with GM using DI in the C7 it's just a matter of time before Ford does it.</p><p></p><p>Now you're probably at 520-525 hp.</p><p></p><p>With the CJ ignition trigger wheel, the engine is good to 8400 RPM.</p><p></p><p>If you want to go even higher, bore it to 5.1 like the CJ. The displacement bump itself is only worth 5-6 hp, but it also unshrouds the valves at high RPM for another 5-10 hp. The CJ is sleeved by a third party which I don't see happening for a production motor, but maybe they could pull it off using the PTAW process from the GT500 to spray in the liners.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line is Ford can probably get 525 hp from a factory 5.0 and close to 540 hp from a 5.1 without switching to a new block or going with a flat plane crank. Couple this with a car that weighs 150-200 lbs less than a current Boss (I don't believe the 400 lb weight savings rumors) and you have a screamer that will make the Z28 look silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RTD, post: 13606509, member: 121917"] I think it's far more likely that we see the application of existing tech from other Ford projects than an all new motor with something exotic like a flat plane crank. Start with the Boss motor at 444hp. Add the Cobra Jet intake manifold and larger throttle body. Add the Cobra Jet intake cams (which were originally developed for the Boss but later dropped for cost savings). They probably won't use the CJ exhaust cams since those were designed for open headers. Add the CJ MAF. Put in an open element CAI and revised tune (Ford has done this before, most recently with the 2010 GT500). At this point you're probably at 505-510 hp. If you want to go higher, add DI and bump the compression ratio by the half point or so that DI allows. All Coyote heads already have the DI boss cast into it, and with GM using DI in the C7 it's just a matter of time before Ford does it. Now you're probably at 520-525 hp. With the CJ ignition trigger wheel, the engine is good to 8400 RPM. If you want to go even higher, bore it to 5.1 like the CJ. The displacement bump itself is only worth 5-6 hp, but it also unshrouds the valves at high RPM for another 5-10 hp. The CJ is sleeved by a third party which I don't see happening for a production motor, but maybe they could pull it off using the PTAW process from the GT500 to spray in the liners. Bottom line is Ford can probably get 525 hp from a factory 5.0 and close to 540 hp from a 5.1 without switching to a new block or going with a flat plane crank. Couple this with a car that weighs 150-200 lbs less than a current Boss (I don't believe the 400 lb weight savings rumors) and you have a screamer that will make the Z28 look silly. [/QUOTE]
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