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SVT’s Jamal Hameedi Weighs-In With His Opinion of The 2013 GT500 @ The Nürburgring
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<blockquote data-quote="BlackBolt9" data-source="post: 13677001" data-attributes="member: 36489"><p>Just because you have track time doesn't mean you have any idea what you are talking about.</p><p></p><p>DOT3 vs. DOT4 isn't what makes the difference in boiling your fluid. It's the dry boiling point for fresh new fluid that hasn't absorbed any water from the air yet and the wet boiling point for old fluid that has sat around awhile and absorbed water from the air, you know since brake fluid is hyrdoscopic and all. Motorcraft brake fluid used to have a dry boiling point of 550 back until about 2008 or so. Then they cheapened it up to only 500. The highest temp fluid Motul offers is 617 for reference.</p><p></p><p>I know this because I searched around for the highest temp fluid for the best price back when I open tracked my "fricken truck" in the 2004-6 timeframe. Guess what, there are a handfull of "fricken trucks" around the country that will hand your CTS-V it's ass. You might not like to think so, but ask some guys from PCA about the big red truck that used to terrorize them (not mine BTW). There are plenty of guys that will tell you just how well a Lightning will make it's way around a road course.</p><p></p><p>Boiling the fluid usually wasn't the problem. Overheating brake pads was. It's tough to find decent track pads for the F150 (go figure) and so the lining would melt way before you did any damage to the fluid, especially since Motorcraft fluid was WAY better than the majority of brake fluids out there.</p><p></p><p>You obviously don't know nearly as much as you'd like to think you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>GM was hoping it would sell them more cars. Plain and simple. For some reason Ford thinks that 202mph at Nardo will sell cars but a 'Ring time won't. I agree it's bullshit and if Ford had a better time they would post it, which makes it really suspect that they won't. If I had to place stakes in Vegas, I'd bet on the Camaro as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Inferior platform? How many Camaros have won a championship in Grand Am? ZERO How many S197 Mustangs? THREE</p><p></p><p>Granted the S197 has been out for several more years but it won it's first championship the first year it rolled out in 2005, and the last time in 2009.</p><p></p><p>How many championships have been won in American Iron by the new Camaro? ZERO The Mustang has won every year since the new Camaro came out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can't argue that too much, but I think if I really had the choice my daily driver would be a G8 GXP, too bad they are getting pretty hard to find. It's too bad GM isn't producing something similar in it's place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BlackBolt9, post: 13677001, member: 36489"] Just because you have track time doesn't mean you have any idea what you are talking about. DOT3 vs. DOT4 isn't what makes the difference in boiling your fluid. It's the dry boiling point for fresh new fluid that hasn't absorbed any water from the air yet and the wet boiling point for old fluid that has sat around awhile and absorbed water from the air, you know since brake fluid is hyrdoscopic and all. Motorcraft brake fluid used to have a dry boiling point of 550 back until about 2008 or so. Then they cheapened it up to only 500. The highest temp fluid Motul offers is 617 for reference. I know this because I searched around for the highest temp fluid for the best price back when I open tracked my "fricken truck" in the 2004-6 timeframe. Guess what, there are a handfull of "fricken trucks" around the country that will hand your CTS-V it's ass. You might not like to think so, but ask some guys from PCA about the big red truck that used to terrorize them (not mine BTW). There are plenty of guys that will tell you just how well a Lightning will make it's way around a road course. Boiling the fluid usually wasn't the problem. Overheating brake pads was. It's tough to find decent track pads for the F150 (go figure) and so the lining would melt way before you did any damage to the fluid, especially since Motorcraft fluid was WAY better than the majority of brake fluids out there. You obviously don't know nearly as much as you'd like to think you do. GM was hoping it would sell them more cars. Plain and simple. For some reason Ford thinks that 202mph at Nardo will sell cars but a 'Ring time won't. I agree it's bullshit and if Ford had a better time they would post it, which makes it really suspect that they won't. If I had to place stakes in Vegas, I'd bet on the Camaro as well. Inferior platform? How many Camaros have won a championship in Grand Am? ZERO How many S197 Mustangs? THREE Granted the S197 has been out for several more years but it won it's first championship the first year it rolled out in 2005, and the last time in 2009. How many championships have been won in American Iron by the new Camaro? ZERO The Mustang has won every year since the new Camaro came out. Can't argue that too much, but I think if I really had the choice my daily driver would be a G8 GXP, too bad they are getting pretty hard to find. It's too bad GM isn't producing something similar in it's place. [/QUOTE]
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