Those with Boss IM and 90mm TB Come In

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Here it is with the supplied dimensions from VetteHunter.
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That's nice, Id love to do this. I just have to find a tuner that's able to work with a 90mm and dial it in.
 

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I guess so lol. I'm not a tuner so I honestly don't know.

It would be very beneficial for Boss IM guys to be able to open the inlet to 90mm, run a cleaned up 90mm throttle body (since the accufab 84.5mm flows more cfm) and most likely a 4.5" intake.

Just need to be able to run a paper gasket, one that will work good, make a good seal and have no leaks. And then someone to be able to take the time and tune the 90mm.

I just don't get why tuners are tuning the massive monoblade for CJ guys, but not a 90mm TB?
 

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The way I understand it is tuners can't log the parameters to accurately adjust them, so yes sir you are correct..

And this is why the 90mm TB's can give some fellas issues i think. So whens SCT going to find a way for them to log TB's??
 
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Scalla,

What made you get the Boss IM in the first place? I know Shaun says you wont gain any hp, and lose some tq. Did you have plans to port it from the beginning?

Currently I have an air raid intake, lethal OR/X and AED tune. I put down 410whp and I would like to be more in the 430 range. I am doing more track oriented driving so the Boss IM appeals to me. I also want to be ahead of my old man in his i/e c5z.

I guess I should get some Long tubes above all else currently.
 

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Scalla,

What made you get the Boss IM in the first place? I know Shaun says you wont gain any hp, and lose some tq. Did you have plans to port it from the beginning?

Currently I have an air raid intake, lethal OR/X and AED tune. I put down 410whp and I would like to be more in the 430 range. I am doing more track oriented driving so the Boss IM appeals to me. I also want to be ahead of my old man in his i/e c5z.

I guess I should get some Long tubes above all else currently.

I don't think Shaun said won't gain power... If he did, then idk why? Because everyone has gained with the proper vct adjustment. Not only that, but extending the powerband about 1200rpm vs 3-400rpm.

Before boss intake I made 404rwhp. After I made 419rwhp. Literally no other changes besides AED Boss intake revision tune. Graphs here

Stock Intake

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Boss Intake

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2 things I would do before doing It again... Twin disc clutch and gears. Stick car 3.73/3.90's. Twin disc, my car got lock out. Especially hitting 2nd gear above 7000rpm. Some don't, seems like early model cars don't have the issue. So you could always just adjust your rev limiter with the stock intake to 7800rpm and try hitting gears at 75-7700 to see how if feels.
 

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I don't think Shaun said won't gain power... If he did, then idk why? Because everyone has gained with the proper vct adjustment. Not only that, but extending the powerband about 1200rpm vs 3-400rpm.

Before boss intake I made 404rwhp. After I made 419rwhp. Literally no other changes besides AED Boss intake revision tune. Graphs here

Stock Intake

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Boss Intake

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2 things I would do before doing It again... Twin disc clutch and gears. Stick car 3.73/3.90's. Twin disc, my car got lock out. Especially hitting 2nd gear above 7000rpm. Some don't, seems like early model cars don't have the issue. So you could always just adjust your rev limiter with the stock intake to 7800rpm and try hitting gears at 75-7700 to see how if feels.

Interesting. He told me I would not gain any peak HP but I would gain HP range and lose some mid range tq. I am not sure why, I assume because I have minor mods.

I have 3.73's, heres my dyno sheet from a local dyno day:

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Since you already have 3.73's, I would do a boss intake in a second. I really don't think you'll lose any power, and you'll gain 10-20
 

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Since you already have 3.73's, I would do a boss intake in a second. I really don't think you'll lose any power, and you'll gain 10-20

Maybe I misunderstood Shauns comment. He said that the Boss IM does not give any additional peak HP but extends the RPM band at which the engine makes power.
 
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Possibly yea. I do have this graph. It's not the fairest comparison. Stock intake (stock clutch/flywheel) vs boss intake with smoothed runners, lighter flywheel McLeod RST (same weight as stock clutch)

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I don't think Shaun said won't gain power... If he did, then idk why? Because everyone has gained with the proper vct adjustment. Not only that, but extending the powerband about 1200rpm vs 3-400rpm.

Before boss intake I made 404rwhp. After I made 419rwhp. Literally no other changes besides AED Boss intake revision tune. Graphs here

Stock Intake

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Boss Intake

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2 things I would do before doing It again... Twin disc clutch and gears. Stick car 3.73/3.90's. Twin disc, my car got lock out. Especially hitting 2nd gear above 7000rpm. Some don't, seems like early model cars don't have the issue. So you could always just adjust your rev limiter with the stock intake to 7800rpm and try hitting gears at 75-7700 to see how if feels.

Damn how'd you make more torque than HP? Never saw that on a coyote before. I don't know if I want to give up 35lb torque for 15HP, guess LTs would help get it back but that's at the back of the mod list for me.
 

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It looks like modifying the stocker isnt worth it. Im prob just going to buy the boss and have drew port it and go with another throttle body then.1





Those are really good threads thanks! Drew gets his smoothing down really nice on the intakes. Mine looked alittle rough, but felt glass smooth.

So yeah, all that data I would not touch the stock intake port wise.
 

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Damn how'd you make more torque than HP? Never saw that on a coyote before. I don't know if I want to give up 35lb torque for 15HP, guess LTs would help get it back but that's at the back of the mod list for me.

It all depends on what you want out of the car. If you are daily driving the car and it is never going to see the track then the Boss probably isn't for you unless you want it for looks alone. If you plan on tracking the car then it might be a good idea if you are willing to run at high rpms. I think I saw in one thread someone said they launched around 6k and shifted at 7.5k and had great results. Also, LT's definitely would help recover the torque loss.
 

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It all depends on what you want out of the car. If you are daily driving the car and it is never going to see the track then the Boss probably isn't for you unless you want it for looks alone. If you plan on tracking the car then it might be a good idea if you are willing to run at high rpms. I think I saw in one thread someone said they launched around 6k and shifted at 7.5k and had great results. Also, LT's definitely would help recover the torque loss.

I agree. LT's + 3.73 or better, are the best supporting mods to run with the Boss.
 
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Damn how'd you make more torque than HP? Never saw that on a coyote before. I don't know if I want to give up 35lb torque for 15HP, guess LTs would help get it back but that's at the back of the mod list for me.

If you look at the graph, it just spiked real quick. For 2-300rpm. Did it everytime, it was weird. Did that with 2 different tuners tunes on 2 different dynos lol.
 

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