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Update on Warranty nazi and TOB retainer - Warranty voided
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<blockquote data-quote="stang99" data-source="post: 604717" data-attributes="member: 191"><p><strong>Rant</strong></p><p></p><p>I asked the two mechanics (both very experience and talented) that have done all the recent work at my private shop and the dealer and they both had the same feeling about my problems. They think that it's the Spec clutch. I will call Spec Monday, but I do not expect them to be of any help. The Ford mechanic reused the the TOB fork piece (I guess I should go find out all the technical names for these clutch related pieces so that I can identify them porperly) but both the Ford guy and the private guy inspected everything really carefully and according to both of them, everything looked new and perfect. </p><p>I have never speed shifted my car which is one reason it is slower than the fast cars. My previous tranny was noisey but it shifted like butter. The new tranny is still new and notchy, but it shifts acceptably. I could live with the Spec clutch at this point because it chatters, especially when it is dead cold, but it isn't chattering anymore when I drive since I have learned how to let it out normally and avoid the chatter. Also, the chatter may be going away.</p><p>However, the sound of something hitting on something down in the bell housing is unacceptable. Somewhere, there should be marks where the hitting is taking place, but, so far, two separate mechanics have been unable to figure it out. </p><p>My car will turn 30000 miles in the next week, so, I figure that my contribution on this board may be that I have a car with mods and lots of mileage. My problem did not surface until after 25000 miles, although everyone's experiences may vary. I have been following the TOB noise threads, and, more and more people have been coming up with TOB problems. Perhaps, as the miles roll up on their cars, they will start having the retainer failures as well? It does appear that the stock clutch quadrant is a poor design that does not keep the stock clutch in proper adjustment and also that the stock clutch may not hold up under the strains of modified torque. I hope that these serious failures are just isolated quality contol issues like the unbalanced drive shafts, but, since I suspect a design (geometry?) problem in the clutch/TOB mechanism, this may be a bigger problem than has been reported to date. </p><p>Without the internet, I would have been isolated about this entire problem and no doubt I would have believed that some action on my part was responsible for the broken drive train. But, there are too many reports of failures on newer completely stock cars for me to accept that I somehow created this problem. Also, I have owned 10 new manual transmission Mustangs since 1988, and this is the first time that I have encountered this kind of problem. My 1993 Mustang had the stock tranny and a full GT40 kit with a 9# Powerdyne blower and 3.73's. It ran 13.37@106.6 at LACR on slippery street tires with no clutch or tranny problems. I got rid of it at 75000 miles. My 98 Cobra with 3.73's never missed a beat in the clutch area and was driven hard. </p><p>Something's not right here!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stang99, post: 604717, member: 191"] [b]Rant[/b] I asked the two mechanics (both very experience and talented) that have done all the recent work at my private shop and the dealer and they both had the same feeling about my problems. They think that it's the Spec clutch. I will call Spec Monday, but I do not expect them to be of any help. The Ford mechanic reused the the TOB fork piece (I guess I should go find out all the technical names for these clutch related pieces so that I can identify them porperly) but both the Ford guy and the private guy inspected everything really carefully and according to both of them, everything looked new and perfect. I have never speed shifted my car which is one reason it is slower than the fast cars. My previous tranny was noisey but it shifted like butter. The new tranny is still new and notchy, but it shifts acceptably. I could live with the Spec clutch at this point because it chatters, especially when it is dead cold, but it isn't chattering anymore when I drive since I have learned how to let it out normally and avoid the chatter. Also, the chatter may be going away. However, the sound of something hitting on something down in the bell housing is unacceptable. Somewhere, there should be marks where the hitting is taking place, but, so far, two separate mechanics have been unable to figure it out. My car will turn 30000 miles in the next week, so, I figure that my contribution on this board may be that I have a car with mods and lots of mileage. My problem did not surface until after 25000 miles, although everyone's experiences may vary. I have been following the TOB noise threads, and, more and more people have been coming up with TOB problems. Perhaps, as the miles roll up on their cars, they will start having the retainer failures as well? It does appear that the stock clutch quadrant is a poor design that does not keep the stock clutch in proper adjustment and also that the stock clutch may not hold up under the strains of modified torque. I hope that these serious failures are just isolated quality contol issues like the unbalanced drive shafts, but, since I suspect a design (geometry?) problem in the clutch/TOB mechanism, this may be a bigger problem than has been reported to date. Without the internet, I would have been isolated about this entire problem and no doubt I would have believed that some action on my part was responsible for the broken drive train. But, there are too many reports of failures on newer completely stock cars for me to accept that I somehow created this problem. Also, I have owned 10 new manual transmission Mustangs since 1988, and this is the first time that I have encountered this kind of problem. My 1993 Mustang had the stock tranny and a full GT40 kit with a 9# Powerdyne blower and 3.73's. It ran 13.37@106.6 at LACR on slippery street tires with no clutch or tranny problems. I got rid of it at 75000 miles. My 98 Cobra with 3.73's never missed a beat in the clutch area and was driven hard. Something's not right here! [/QUOTE]
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