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I'm into alot of roll racing and would like to take part in some of the runway events. Don't do a lot of track or drag racing.

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Ok yeah you don't need bigger brake then what you have for that just do the pads,rotors,lines,fluid. don't need to do all at once build up as you make more boost.

I would look at the alumastars 2.0 17's. and the M&H racemaster 28x4.5. It's a radial tires. It's a nice looking tire. it is new though so no feedback. there is a member on here that just bought a set up with them so looking forward to hearing his feed back on the tire.

Or a cheaper and faster shipping time you could get the darkstars also in 17x4.5. But not made in the US.
 

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1 of the reasons I mention that front set up is beside looking killer. You save about 25lbs each tire/rim combo. My math isn't correct but that like loosing 100lbs off the body.

And there are plenty strong. See a lot of 3600lb+ cars doing wheelies at the strip on them. what goes up must come down.
 

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Bro there is absolutely no point in building a car that makes 800-900 whp if u plan on running a 17 inch tire out back. there just isn't a sticky enough tire out there to hook up with that size rim.

when I roll up against other cars on the road I know instantly whether or not they have a snowballs chance in hell of beating me just by looking at their rim size.

I had 19 inch Forgestars and loved em looked badass and handled great but utterly useless on the street even with NT05r's if ur trying to hook up.

If I were to do 18" up front and 17" in the rear, I would be happy with some black weld wheels. Would that work alot better? What tire would work with that setup?

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Bro there is absolutely no point in building a car that makes 800-900 whp if u plan on running a 17 inch tire out back. there just isn't a sticky enough tire out there to hook up with that size rim.

when I roll up against other cars on the road I know instantly whether or not they have a snowballs chance in hell of beating me just by looking at their rim size.

I had 19 inch Forgestars and loved em looked badass and handled great but utterly useless on the street even with NT05r's if ur trying to hook up.
I feel ya, I'm not ashamed to admit this is a learning experience...I am now looking into some weld wheels so I can get a decent tire and not spin everywhere like a jack ass lol

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lol trus me bro we all been there and would love to have best of all worlds rim/tire setup but it just doesn't exist. Nothn wrong with having an extra set of rims/tires but money don't grow on trees in my backyard and I doubt they do urs either lol

15x10 MT Pro Radial 275/60 is all u will need and u will simply enjoy ur car a LOT more cause all the money u spent making ur car faster will now actually BE faster cause u will be hooking up.

Making some dyno queen number won't mean dick if u can't hook. I see it with Corvette guys all the time. Their car makes XXX power blablabla..... and then they can't hook and make excuses why they lost.

I feel ya, I'm not ashamed to admit this is a learning experience...I am now looking into some weld wheels so I can get a decent tire and not spin everywhere like a jack ass lol

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lol trus me bro we all been there and would love to have best of all worlds rim/tire setup but it just doesn't exist. Nothn wrong with having an extra set of rims/tires but money don't grow on trees in my backyard and I doubt they do urs either lol

15x10 MT Pro Radial 275/60 is all u will need and u will simply enjoy ur car a LOT more cause all the money u spent making ur car faster will now actually BE faster cause u will be hooking up.

Making some dyno queen number won't mean dick if u can't hook. I see it with Corvette guys all the time. Their car makes XXX power blablabla..... and then they can't hook and make excuses why they lost.
Lol very true. Will a pro radial be IRS friendly? I will have the IRS beefed up but want to keep it.

And I may be asking too much, but I would love to have that extra set of "cruiser wheels" if you will, to handle better around the mountain roads here on the east coast.

Haha I know I'm in an uphill battle here at my desired power level...

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Sure u can use that setup with an IRS as long as u beef up the half shafts. Oh I hear ya bro I live in Connecticut and like to zip up and down the hi way and have thought of getting another rim/tire setup to do the same.

If u did that u would jus have to either turn down the boost or for u stay out of it going thru corners.

Lol very true. Will a pro radial be IRS friendly? I will have the IRS beefed up but want to keep it.

And I may be asking too much, but I would love to have that extra set of "cruiser wheels" if you will, to handle better around the mountain roads here on the east coast.

Haha I know I'm in an uphill battle here at my desired power level...

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Sure u can use that setup with an IRS as long as u beef up the half shafts. Oh I hear ya bro I live in Connecticut and like to zip up and down the hi way and have thought of getting another rim/tire setup to do the same.

If u did that u would jus have to either turn down the boost or for u stay out of it going thru corners.
Yup planning on half shafts, FTBR bushings and a stronger diff cover. Full length subframe and bumpsteer kit etc...

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Yeah 1 thing to think about when deciding on rear rim/tire set ups is.
Going with a 15" rim you will need MM rear brake line kit. And it looks like grinding of the tie rod ends on the IRS. Looks like a lot of grinding.

A bunch of people have done it with no issues. I think I would just go with a 16" rear rim. Instead of the MM rear brake kit and grinding the tie rod end.
 

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Yeah 1 thing to think about when deciding on rear rim/tire set ups is.
Going with a 15" rim you will need MM rear brake line kit. And it looks like grinding of the tie rod ends on the IRS. Looks like a lot of grinding.

A bunch of people have done it with no issues. I think I would just go with a 16" rear rim. Instead of the MM rear brake kit and grinding the tie rod end.
So if I go 16" for the rear it will just fit right on there? No need for modification? Other than rolling fenders maybe?

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Also you guys, how wide of a tire can I go? I purchased some allen headed IRS bolts a good while ago after reading of contact with the bolts...

I think I've decided on the Weld RT-S S71 in black. Maybe a 16" in the rear and a 17" in the front.

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That does look like an awesome tire. Are you recommending them for a 17-18" wheel in the 28 tall?

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I have them in 17’s and my father has them on 18’s, hard to compare the two because they are on different cars (gt500 & 03cobra). But the more sidewalk the better it will be for you. It’s by far the best Drag radial I’ve ever ran. A lot of people here like the Toyo tires, I had a set IMO they are f’ing junk.
 

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I have them in 17’s and my father has them on 18’s, hard to compare the two because they are on different cars (gt500 & 03cobra). But the more sidewalk the better it will be for you. It’s by far the best Drag radial I’ve ever ran. A lot of people here like the Toyo tires, I had a set IMO they are f’ing junk.
Yea alot of guys have told me to stay away from the R888 at that power level. I will definitely look into the M&H tire. What width are you running on the 17"? I see they make a 325. Will that fit with the IRS?

I have seen a few combos of the 18" RTS welds in the front and 17" in the back. I wonder how that would look with a M&H tire on the rear.

Does that tire handle well? And ride well on twisty roads?

Thanks!

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Op, it sounds like your looking for two types of tires out of one. Twisty roads, a lot of hp, and skinny tires up front are NOT going to mix well.

You might as well have two different sets of wheels. A drag setup, and one more oriented for spirited driving.

The r888 would be the best aggressive tire for twisty roads, but it won't support you're hp levels, traction wise.

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I'm at mid 700s and from a 40 roll with 18" MT drag radials I'm not hooking. I'll be looking for a good 15-16" rear wheel setup soon. It sucks having all that power just to spin.

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Op, it sounds like your looking for two types of tires out of one. Twisty roads, a lot of hp, and skinny tires up front are NOT going to mix well.

You might as well have two different sets of wheels. A drag setup, and one more oriented for spirited driving.

The r888 would be the best aggressive tire for twisty roads, but it won't support you're hp levels, traction wise.

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Yea I know I'm asking a bit much here, lol. And you nailed it on the head there. I may just have to bite the bullet and have two sets. I would obviously feather it on back roads and daily driving on something like the r888...but as you said, they're going to light up on the straight blasts.

Maybe I could do that, and then have a 27-28" tire on another set with smaller front wheels and tires to go out and beat on.

Kind of a pain in the long run...but it is what it is...when you're looking for the best of both worlds at that power.

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I'm at mid 700s and from a 40 roll with 18" MT drag radials I'm not hooking. I'll be looking for a good 15-16" rear wheel setup soon. It sucks having all that power just to spin.

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I hear ya, and thanks for the heads up!

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Yea I know I'm asking a bit much here, lol. And you nailed it on the head there. I may just have to bite the bullet and have two sets. I would obviously feather it on back roads and daily driving on something like the r888...but as you said, they're going to light up on the straight blasts.

Maybe I could do that, and then have a 27-28" tire on another set with smaller front wheels and tires to go out and beat on.

Kind of a pain in the long run...but it is what it is...when you're looking for the best of both worlds at that power.

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This was the whole reason I ordered up a pair of 16" rear wheels. Ideally I'd like to have a smaller tire up front when running the 16's out back.

I'd rather do pulls from a roll, less chance of breaking drivetrain parts. For now I can get traction on a 40 mph hit if the temperature is mid upper 60's. At least usually, lol.



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