Why am I shredding belts?
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I have been talking with metco, and I shipped put my hub and ring. When they inspected it, they told me that it was NOT thier hub and ring. When I purchased the kit from a member in this site, everything was packaged and sealed in metco boxes and was brand new.
Somehow someway, I got a knock off hub and ring, that someone went through a lot of effort to make it seem like a metco piece. And it was put in a new sealed bag and the whole 9.
I purchased a new metco hub and ring and will post when I install
Somehow someway, I got a knock off hub and ring, that someone went through a lot of effort to make it seem like a metco piece. And it was put in a new sealed bag and the whole 9.
I purchased a new metco hub and ring and will post when I install
glad that thing ended up in the trash where it belongs….but man thats a rotten deal. You should disclose who you bought that from here so their trader rep can reflect such an egregious offense. Or at least they can explain a bit further what in the heck happened. That could have caused some serious damage not to mention all the lost time/effort you experienced
Agree. But still what doesn't make sense is that the hub measured correct per Metco spec right? So maybe it was the ring. I wonder if the mounting points were offset with this other ring. I know metco you don't have a front and back, but if this other one was offset, that could be the problem and possibly even reversing it could have fixed the issue. Or just the machining of the ring was wrong all together.
Yes I asked rick to trash it. I honestly don't know if the seller did the "swap" or not, not entirely sure how to handle that since it was last year. I have a about 100 dollars in belts, and about 8 hours under the car. At least the problem was found.
Yes the hub did measure 2.40 inches like rick specified. Also the alternator is the factory unit from when the car was new. Every ear was consistent to my findings. I did flip the rings around as well and there was no change. It is definately puzzling. They did say the ring was not consistant, but I have no reason to believe metco would steer me wrong. I also wanted to get ahold of you about a hellion single kit for my car
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Have you contacted the seller? Could be an honest mistake. I trust people on here with a few positive sales. My sadistic side also likes the treatment of scammers. This is a big site but the regulars make it feel like a community. :beer:
I havent, but will try to. I have also had pretty good luck with buying, and selling also. Who knows how I ended up with the crap ring and hub.Have you contacted the seller? Could be an honest mistake. I trust people on here with a few positive sales. My sadistic side also likes the treatment of scammers. This is a big site but the regulars make it feel like a community.
The ring and hub Chris sent to us are clearly knock-offs, likely LFP parts. We found a number of characteristics resulting from the different manufacturing processes that left no doubt that these parts were not made in our shop.
Obviously, the fact that these parts were presented as Metco parts, even packaged as Metco parts, is very disturbing.
In any case, your Metco hub and ring shipped to you today, Chris. While we did not spend any time troubleshooting the parts you returned, it is my expectation that the replacement parts will finally resolve your problem. If that turns out not to be the case for some reason, you know you can reach me and I will continue to assist you.
Metco on the left:
Rick
Metco Motorsports
Obviously, the fact that these parts were presented as Metco parts, even packaged as Metco parts, is very disturbing.
In any case, your Metco hub and ring shipped to you today, Chris. While we did not spend any time troubleshooting the parts you returned, it is my expectation that the replacement parts will finally resolve your problem. If that turns out not to be the case for some reason, you know you can reach me and I will continue to assist you.
Metco on the left:
Rick
Metco Motorsports
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Are there any telltale signs to look for if it's a Metco or not? I have an extra setup I got from a friend when buying his ring and would like to know for sure if it is or not before I list it. Also which ones had the "skeleton" style idler bracket are they all solid now?
Metco rocks!!
I said it from the beginning, the HUB was the problem. I also ended up with a knock off METCO HUB, after almost a year of shredding belts many hours replacing brackets, idlers, tensioners, shimming and talking to Rick @ METCO who btw tried very hard to resolve the problem over the phone. After many days of troubleshooting my tuner decided to just to buy a complete new lower kit from them and problem solved. BTW my HUB has no markings. Hope your problem is solved soon? It took me almost a year of frustration to get this resolved.
Hmm, I have a guy that is eating belts as well. I think it is a metco lower, but he may have bought it himself thinking he was saving money. He does have an eagle auto electric alt, so I am thinking it is a pulley alignment issue. Will check it out when he is over next time
OP, drop me a pm about the kit.
OP, drop me a pm about the kit.
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So the new metco hub and ring came today. I installed it all to spec, and it is exactly the same as the knock off hub and ring I had. Super dissapointed.
I am at a loss, I am considering selling the entire set up and associated parts, and buying a hellion single kit...anyone interested in a mint Whipple 2.9?
I am at a loss, I am considering selling the entire set up and associated parts, and buying a hellion single kit...anyone interested in a mint Whipple 2.9?
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Crap. So you got the new Metco kit in and still have the issue with the lower sitting out further than the rest of the pulleys?
I have essentially the same setup as you and I ate a rib off my belt last week. Measured the same thing as you, lower pulley sitting out further from blower pulley about .080". I was set to order a new metco pulley and possibly hub (since you had measured the hub as being correct). Now i may look into having the pulley face or hub face machined to bring it in.
Keep us posted :beer:
I have essentially the same setup as you and I ate a rib off my belt last week. Measured the same thing as you, lower pulley sitting out further from blower pulley about .080". I was set to order a new metco pulley and possibly hub (since you had measured the hub as being correct). Now i may look into having the pulley face or hub face machined to bring it in.
Keep us posted :beer:
Yes, correct. Brand new parts from metco, same issue as the knock off part.Crap. So you got the new Metco kit in and still have the issue with the lower sitting out further than the rest of the pulleys?
I have essentially the same setup as you and I ate a rib off my belt last week. Measured the same thing as you, lower pulley sitting out further from blower pulley about .080". I was set to order a new metco pulley and possibly hub (since you had measured the hub as being correct). Now i may look into having the pulley face or hub face machined to bring it in.
Keep us posted
The measurements are the same from my calipers. Hub to hub. I'm sticking out past everything else about .115 a little less than an 1/8th inch.
I'm gathering it's either
Get it Machined down and hope it's correct
Or put the factory lower back on, and spin the living shit out of the upper pulley.
I am in NO WAY bashing or bad mouthing metco. Rick has been nothing but helpful in the situation, and has showed true concern with my issue. My car has only metco idlers/brackets on it and i love their stuff. This is an issue that most likely lies within my car and this is just to keep people updated like I said I would for future reference. Great people at metco.
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Man what a bummer.
Since you have both, have you measured the thickness of the center web area of either lower pulley? I’m pulling mine off tonight and I’d be curious to compare that as well as the 2.40” total hub height.
I wouldn’t be so sure that this is an issue with just your car. I know of plenty of cobra guys that throw belts somewhat regularly, people just always seem to shrug their shoulders and chalk it up to it being a blower car. IMO with the tolerance stack-up between blower mounting and engine assembly it’s kind of amazing that it’s not more common.
Since you have both, have you measured the thickness of the center web area of either lower pulley? I’m pulling mine off tonight and I’d be curious to compare that as well as the 2.40” total hub height.
I wouldn’t be so sure that this is an issue with just your car. I know of plenty of cobra guys that throw belts somewhat regularly, people just always seem to shrug their shoulders and chalk it up to it being a blower car. IMO with the tolerance stack-up between blower mounting and engine assembly it’s kind of amazing that it’s not more common.
I don't have the other hub and ring anymore. I had metco get rid of it, so I can't compare. However, it doesn't really matter to me because I still have the issue of it being too thick.
If I put on a factory lower, I would have to run with a 2.75 upper pulley. I'm not about to steal from Peter to pay Paul and develop possible belt slip issues.
Does anyone even run a 2.9 Whipple with a 2.75 upper on it?
I am going to have metco machine it down, and hopefully it takes care of it. Since I have gotten Into the bigger blower high boost world, the car has gotten extremely sensitive. I guess that's the game
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Man that blows. Good luck!
I think the 2.9 whipple upper only sees around 24-25psi with a 2.8"
3.0" upper makes around 22
Not sure on belt wrap. I'm sure it's an issue on the 2.8 but the 3.0 shouldn't slip too bad at all if properly setup with belt size and idler config. Probably wouldn't hurt to have that Metco tensioner brace either
3.0" upper makes around 22
Not sure on belt wrap. I'm sure it's an issue on the 2.8 but the 3.0 shouldn't slip too bad at all if properly setup with belt size and idler config. Probably wouldn't hurt to have that Metco tensioner brace either
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