With Antifa now actively trying to mass murder police, will anyone stand up?

[scott9050]

Portland mayor condemns rioters for 'attempting to commit murder'

Barricading the doors and setting the police precinct on fire with 20 officers inside. When is someone going to grow a pair and deal with these scumbags head on?

 

[Kiohtee]

I don't know how to say this without inciting the pro-police here, which I'm very much a part of, but um... the police are as much to blame for letting this happen. This goes far and beyond the split-second decision of shooting someone during a traffic stop or whatever scenario you can conjure up. If someone is attempting to lock me, my family and I, my coworkers and I or anyone in a building and set fire to it, you are getting shot. I'll admit that I don't know the details of this situation because I just skimmed the article, but no, just no.

Fire your way out of that building and continue firing once outside. Bullshit.

 

[scott_0]

Portland mayor condemns rioters for 'attempting to commit murder'

Barricading the doors and setting the police precinct on fire with 20 officers inside. When is someone going to grow a pair and deal with these scumbags head on?

our president tried, the worthless shit bag democrats that run that state and city said they didn’t want his feds there so.......


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[Kiohtee]

our president tried, the worthless shit bag democrats that run that state and city said they didn’t want his feds there so.......


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Tunes would change real quick if people started taking back over and restoring order.

 

[7998]

You have to go out there and start smashing skulls. They are just emboldening these little faggits. Every time they pull something like this their numbers grow and provokes them to get bolder. They will keep going and pushing further until someone meets them with force.

 

[Blkkbgt]

I don't know how to say this without inciting the pro-police here, which I'm very much a part of, but um... the police are as much to blame for letting this happen. This goes far and beyond the split-second decision of shooting someone during a traffic stop or whatever scenario you can conjure up. If someone is attempting to lock me, my family and I, my coworkers and I or anyone in a building and set fire to it, you are getting shot. I'll admit that I don't know the details of this situation because I just skimmed the article, but no, just no.

Fire your way out of that building and continue firing once outside. Bullshit.

I agree with you but I also think those particular LEOs are a product of what their state and local governments have been allowed to do. They have essentially been neutered and are now powerless.

 

[VRYALT3R3D]

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[MinGrey02Stg2]

I don't know how to say this without inciting the pro-police here, which I'm very much a part of, but um... the police are as much to blame for letting this happen. This goes far and beyond the split-second decision of shooting someone during a traffic stop or whatever scenario you can conjure up. If someone is attempting to lock me, my family and I, my coworkers and I or anyone in a building and set fire to it, you are getting shot. I'll admit that I don't know the details of this situation because I just skimmed the article, but no, just no.

Fire your way out of that building and continue firing once outside. Bullshit.

You know, I was kind of thinking this recently as well. I'm very pro police, but those politicians aren't out arresting business owners (New Jersey gym owner for example), the police are enforcing these insane rules. It would be nice if they told the mayors/city council members that they can go out and do it, but so far, they haven't.

 

[Kiohtee]

I agree with you but I also think those particular LEOs are a product of what their state and local governments have been allowed to do. They have essentially been neutered and are now powerless.

You know, I was kind of thinking this recently as well. I'm very pro police, but those politicians aren't out arresting business owners (New Jersey gym owner for example), the police are enforcing these insane rules. It would be nice if they told the mayors/city council members that they can go out and do it, but so far, they haven't.

They're absolutely a product of the environment in which they reside. And I even understand playing it as safe as humanly possible in case they are involved in a worst-case scenario situation. However, and I promise you this isn't just keyboard warrior talk, there is no amount of guilt or thought of what will happen afterwards that would let me allow someone to try to run me over or lock me in a building that they'll then set on fire without returning equal, more powerful even, force.

 

[ZYBORG]

I don't know how to say this without inciting the pro-police here, which I'm very much a part of, but um... the police are as much to blame for letting this happen. This goes far and beyond the split-second decision of shooting someone during a traffic stop or whatever scenario you can conjure up. If someone is attempting to lock me, my family and I, my coworkers and I or anyone in a building and set fire to it, you are getting shot. I'll admit that I don't know the details of this situation because I just skimmed the article, but no, just no.

Fire your way out of that building and continue firing once outside. Bullshit.

cops are ****ed there. They have been chopped down at the knees. Their leaders and state government are against them.

If they were to retaliate with appropriate force, they them would be having to worry about getting fired prosecution and incarceration.

 

[Silverstrike]

Until the actual Police leadership gives the middle finger to the local politicians, and say I'm not going to allow my people to be just sitting targets if another episode like this happens, then guess what up to and including deadly force will be met out. And if you want to charge me then you best come out yourselves to enforce it. As when you do I'm charging you with accessory and aiding and abetting a murderer/arsonist for setting this fire. And to finally bring it all together tell the judge you got 2 choices do your damn job or I'll get you on anything if you even think of just wrist slap and make them walk. That includes even a broken tail light that I cause to arrest you.

This is exactly what needs to happen but so far all I've seen is a bunch of scared compliant rabbits on what ever the city consul and mayor want the cops do.

 

[RedVenom48]

I find it utterly laughable that this bitch beta of a mayor is only NOW "outraged" that they would attempt to murder his personal body guards, shit I mean Portland Police.

This bitch has failed as a human being, let alone an elected official "in charge" of a city. I hope they burn down all the precincts and burn down city hall, Portland deserves nothing less at this point.

You stupid ****, what did you think would happen if you allowed this terrorist organization to grow and become emboldened?

Let Antifa burn Portland and then send the Marines in to root these communist ****s out like they did to the islamic terrorists in Fallujah.

 

[Machdup1]

Without the mayor’s support the police cannot act. The concept of the police ignoring the political leadership is not a good precedent.

The police should pull back and announce that they are ordered to do nothing and let the citizens handle the problem.

These children will soon learn that the laws are designed to prevent vigilante justice.

In the breakdown of the legal system there are no safe guards that prevent the highly skilled citizens from killing the scum.

The system doesnt exist to protect the good people from the bad people, they exist to protect the bad people from the good people.

If we are left to handle the problem, it will be a violent solution with many deaths on the radicals side before the mayor realizes what is happening.

 

[Cobra Norway]

I am outraged that this is happening in the US of A! I really can not believe my own eyes reading an seeing this online. ****ing anarcists taking over the streets and people are understandibly terrified that the law is'nt coming to their aid and rescue. I do not know your constitution, but is there not something in there regarding the right to bear arms that includes som kind of sivil millitia? If you guys have the constitutional right to bear arms, then there is no time like the present.... **** em up and let their God sort them out!

 

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[nxhappy]

send in the goddamn tanks and destroy these dumb mother ****ers

really tho ....the state governors are PUSSIES. it's time for trump to step it up.

 

[Kiohtee]

Trump's hands are tied. Maybe not literally or legally, but can you just imagine how the left will spin this if he sends in the military to clean up the democrat's shit? I say let the liberal shitholes suffer the fate they voted for and give Trump exceptional campaign footage to use what a Democrat-controlled America would look like.

 

[RedVenom48]

I am outraged that this is happening in the US of A! I really can not believe my own eyes reading an seeing this online. ****ing anarcists taking over the streets and people are understandibly terrified that the law is'nt coming to their aid and rescue. I do not know your constitution, but is there not something in there regarding the right to bear arms that includes som kind of sivil millitia? If you guys have the constitutional right to bear arms, then there is no time like the present.... **** em up and let their God sort them out!

Welcome Cobra Norway!

The US Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of all 50 states. However, each state has the ability to enforce their own laws that may or may not be *technically* in violation of the Constitution.

For example, I live in Arizona. The 2nd amendment guaranteeing citizens the right to keep and bear arms is the strongest of all 50 states. The only firearm restrictions we have are that of the National Firearms Act of 1934 (federal) and the Gun Control Act of 1968, and the Firearm Owners Protection act. That means we have next to no restrictions on semi-auto firearms and we can legally own machine guns, suppressors and short barrel rifles and shotguns. This is done through tax and permit approvals through the Federal government.

In states like California, there are much harsher laws regarding firearms including bans of normal configuration AR15s, AKs and other "assault" weapons. There is a California "Roster of Safe Handguns" which is essentially a de facto handgun ban. Even with federal approval, it is nearly impossible for California citizens to own machine guns, suppressors short barrel rifles and shotguns.

Technically, all these firearms laws in California and states like them are unconstitutional. In order for these laws to be abolished, they must be argued before the Supreme Court of the United States. The Supreme court can pick and choose which cases it wants to hear so appealing a lower court's ruling on Constitutionality of State level laws can be very expensive and time consuming to litigate. Which is why groups like the NRA and Gun Owners of America exist.

Then there are states like California and Oregon (where Portland is) that are politically VERY liberal and considered extremely to the left of political center. In states like this, there are local and state laws and policies that seemingly protect criminals more than victims. In the case of Portland, the Mayor AND the State Governor are allowing this mayhem to occur because they are deluded as to WHO is out on the streets. They (wrongly) think that the mob out rioting are "protesters" looking for social justice against "racism" and "police brutality".

These shitbags are actually Far Left Marxist Communists attempting to incite riots to overthrown current rule of law. They are literally fighting FOR establishing Communism throughout the US. They have hijacked a reform movement for their own agenda.

When they go rampaging through the streets, local and state police are ORDERED to stand down and not stop them. If citizens are armed or try to defend themselves in these large cities from rioters and mobs, the far left mayors and even state Governors will prosecute the citizen defending themselves. They charge them due to very flawed politically influenced social beliefs. It is an attempt to inject their warped far left political ideology on the masses. The funny part is that eventually, the Communist mob turns on the very political figures that cleared the way for them to riot on the streets.

By the way, most of these Communist rioters are middle class white people who know absolutely nothing about real world struggle, discipline, respect or reality. They have had everything provided for them and think thats how the world works.

I hope this helps make things a little more clear, and again welcome to SVTP!

 

[Machdup1]

For everyone who is outraged, when are you gearing up and heading down to solve the problem?

 

[Cobra Norway]

Welcome Cobra Norway!

The US Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of all 50 states. However, each state has the ability to enforce their own laws that may or may not be *technically* in violation of the Constitution.

For example, I live in Arizona. The 2nd amendment guaranteeing citizens the right to keep and bear arms is the strongest of all 50 states. The only firearm restrictions we have are that of the National Firearms Act of 1934 (federal) and the Gun Control Act of 1968, and the Firearm Owners Protection act. That means we have next to no restrictions on semi-auto firearms and we can legally own machine guns, suppressors and short barrel rifles and shotguns. This is done through tax and permit approvals through the Federal government.

In states like California, there are much harsher laws regarding firearms including bans of normal configuration AR15s, AKs and other "assault" weapons. There is a California "Roster of Safe Handguns" which is essentially a de facto handgun ban. Even with federal approval, it is nearly impossible for California citizens to own machine guns, suppressors short barrel rifles and shotguns.

Technically, all these firearms laws in California and states like them are unconstitutional. In order for these laws to be abolished, they must be argued before the Supreme Court of the United States. The Supreme court can pick and choose which cases it wants to hear so appealing a lower court's ruling on Constitutionality of State level laws can be very expensive and time consuming to litigate. Which is why groups like the NRA and Gun Owners of America exist.

Then there are states like Oregon and California (where Portland is) that are politically VERY liberal and considered extremely to the left of political center. In states like this, there are local and state laws and policies that seemingly protect criminals more than victims. In the case of Portland, the Mayor AND the State Governor are allowing this mayhem to occur because they are deluded as to WHO is out on the streets. They (wrongly) think that the mob out rioting are "protesters" looking for social justice against "racism" and "police brutality".

These shitbags are actually Far Left Marxist Communists attempting to incite riots to overthrown current rule of law. They are literally fighting FOR establishing Communism throughout the US. They have hijacked a reform movement for their own agenda.

When they go rampaging through the streets, local and state police are ORDERED to stand down and not stop them. If citizens are armed or try to defend themselves in these large cities from rioters and mobs, the far left mayors and even state Governors will prosecute the citizen defending themselves. They charge them due to very flawed politically influenced social beliefs. It is an attempt to inject their warped far left political ideology on the masses. The funny part is that eventually, the Communist mob turns on the very political figures that cleared the way for them to riot on the streets.

By the way, most of these Communist rioters are middle class white people who know absolutely nothing about real world struggle, discipline, respect or reality. They have had everything provided for them and think thats how the world works.

I hope this helps make things a little more clear, and again welcome to SVTP!

Hi RedVenom48 and thank you for the velcoming and this very interesting and for me educational read.
I understand that there is complexity in various states and laws.
My thought was that, in that chaos in the streets, how wil they point out a patriot in black outfit and facemask gunning down mobsters if he's smack in their midst and running the same way?
If I were a millitary trained sniper, I would find myself a nice elevated vantage point and go to town so to speak =D
But is easy to sit 1000 miles away and hammer on a keyboard, I'm truly sorry that this shit is happening in your fantastic country =(
I wish you all the best and hope Trump finds a way to break these bastards.
On that note...how the hell can one abuse and degrade a demented man by pushing him to be the next president when he clearly is confused most of the time? You better watch out here, because it's the VP that's actually gonna be the next president if Trump loses.