Picked up my FTVB w/ 4x4 pan, and while i was there i also invested in an Optima RED top of course. Got home let the L cool down for about 2 hours popped open a brew and got to it. Overall time spent was about 2 hours, after all was done took her out for a test drive, everything just right and on the way home raced a porche boxter.... and of course all he saw was the back end of the L. :burn: