99svtvert
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01trublue cobra said:
3.73's but I think I will change this winter.
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3.73's but I think I will change this winter.
It's people like you and Naz that give me inspiration to build my 01 rather than simply just purchase a Terminator.
99svtvert
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The answer of rather to buy an 03-04 or build-up a 99-01 lies with interest, I think. If you like working with engines, are mechanically inclined, and love high perfomance motors; then a build-up might make sense.
If you want to race and need the car as a daily driver, have a limited budget for repairs, can afford downtime, then maybe a terminator makes sense.
I have to say again however, this is the quickest Cobra I ever drove, which includes my Terminator (at 463 RWHP) and several at over 500. There is something about 7400 RPM - 7700 RPM that you miss from the 03's and 04's, even though the torque in Terminators is awesome.
Now I have a relatively simple, streetable, fast Cobra that sounds mean and is really fairly unique. The are 100's of 03-04's running around this town.
If you want to race and need the car as a daily driver, have a limited budget for repairs, can afford downtime, then maybe a terminator makes sense.
I have to say again however, this is the quickest Cobra I ever drove, which includes my Terminator (at 463 RWHP) and several at over 500. There is something about 7400 RPM - 7700 RPM that you miss from the 03's and 04's, even though the torque in Terminators is awesome.
Now I have a relatively simple, streetable, fast Cobra that sounds mean and is really fairly unique. The are 100's of 03-04's running around this town.
Great combo. Congrats on the results of your labor.
BTW, I too like the two-toned steering wheel.
BTW, I too like the two-toned steering wheel.
blksnake99 said:
Holy $h@t! I just noticed you're in St. L.! Are you on stlmustangs.com? I don't recall seeing you over there but I'd love to see your car(s) and so would a lot of other people! Your right, we're inundated w/ Termis in this town!
pm sent!
Yall have some PIMP setups, but aside from a severe loss of low end torque(made up for with steep gears), how much more power up top would that $2,600 intake make compared to a 99/01 Cobra intake made into a shortrunner(5" runners like Al Pappito makes)?
Reason I ask is you could run a shortrunner and spend the $2600 on a used blower kit and make 600rwhp on low boost with all the rest of the FR500 stuff. To each his own I guess, still cool regardless.
Reason I ask is you could run a shortrunner and spend the $2600 on a used blower kit and make 600rwhp on low boost with all the rest of the FR500 stuff. To each his own I guess, still cool regardless.
Sweet setup :coolman:
What the digital window switch controlling?
What the digital window switch controlling?
99svtvert
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FR500 Intake Runner Control -- MSD Digital Window Switch controls the Runner Actuator (up and down):
Short Runners 0-2000 RPM Start without Butterfly throttle wobble due to backpressure
Long Runners 2001-4800 RPM Torque
Short Runners 4801-7800 RPM HP
Settings can be changed easily to get what you want.
Short Runners 0-2000 RPM Start without Butterfly throttle wobble due to backpressure
Long Runners 2001-4800 RPM Torque
Short Runners 4801-7800 RPM HP
Settings can be changed easily to get what you want.
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blksnake99 said:
Cool beans.
I use the old pill style with my little bit of spray, so it's more me proof on the settings. :-D
viperbluelx said:
You said it brother....for each his own!
Intead of a blower I throw a little juice to crank 600+RW :-D & some sick TQ to match!!
The intake its an expensive mofo but its great for daily drivers. We get the best of both worlds: Great low speed TQ and sick top end!!:bowdown:
Naz
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I can't think of a better way to put it than this:
I have a friend with a 04 2V GT; very nice car and fun to drive. He has a Vortech on it and get about 380 RWHP. He drove the FR500 Cobra tonight. He was smiling for an hour after his drive because of the high RPM buzz he got. He has had 4-5 mustangs and I quote "I never drove a care that screams like that one before not even and 04 Cobra".
There is an downhill "on ramp" to an interstate near where I live, and then a 1/2 mile flat stretch and finally a long uphill off ramp. That is 3/4 mile from my home and I heard him get on and shift twice and get off. Even at at that distance it is a wailing noise like Nascar. When he pulled back in the driveway and around back, I could hear the cams settling down to a low rumble.
When he got out he looked a little gray in color and them the smile started. He said it scary at first and then euphoric; he hit the rev limiter twice at 7400 RPM and didn't expect that he was near it.
His comments gave a good perspective. He said when you first drive a 1999-2001 Cobra you really get the high RPM RUSH after having driven a GT. Difference; at 5800 it's about all over; with a 99-01 Cobra you get that extra 800-1000 RPM and that is a thrill and an advantage. Driving THIS, he commented, is like making the same jump yet again from Cobra to Super Cobra; to 7400 and it is still pulling (no labor at all).
Best part; he is buying an 01 built Cobra tomorrow and ordered FR500 heads and cams for it tonight due to ship next Monday; which was a complete surprise to me.
It never ends for us, does it ?
I have a friend with a 04 2V GT; very nice car and fun to drive. He has a Vortech on it and get about 380 RWHP. He drove the FR500 Cobra tonight. He was smiling for an hour after his drive because of the high RPM buzz he got. He has had 4-5 mustangs and I quote "I never drove a care that screams like that one before not even and 04 Cobra".
There is an downhill "on ramp" to an interstate near where I live, and then a 1/2 mile flat stretch and finally a long uphill off ramp. That is 3/4 mile from my home and I heard him get on and shift twice and get off. Even at at that distance it is a wailing noise like Nascar. When he pulled back in the driveway and around back, I could hear the cams settling down to a low rumble.
When he got out he looked a little gray in color and them the smile started. He said it scary at first and then euphoric; he hit the rev limiter twice at 7400 RPM and didn't expect that he was near it.
His comments gave a good perspective. He said when you first drive a 1999-2001 Cobra you really get the high RPM RUSH after having driven a GT. Difference; at 5800 it's about all over; with a 99-01 Cobra you get that extra 800-1000 RPM and that is a thrill and an advantage. Driving THIS, he commented, is like making the same jump yet again from Cobra to Super Cobra; to 7400 and it is still pulling (no labor at all).
Best part; he is buying an 01 built Cobra tomorrow and ordered FR500 heads and cams for it tonight due to ship next Monday; which was a complete surprise to me.
It never ends for us, does it ?
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No!!blksnake99 said:
I love when you guys give me new idea's. After i send my motor to vt engines, there is going to be some major porting going on
Can you do all the FR500 stuff w/o forging your motor?
You can, but you miss out on a lot of the benefits.
The stock rods really are about at their limit at our 6800 rpm limit stock. You also don't get the nice bump in compression.
On the stock internals I would probably just do the heads and intake. The FR500 cams are just going to move the power up past where the motor will safely rev to.
The stock rods really are about at their limit at our 6800 rpm limit stock. You also don't get the nice bump in compression.
On the stock internals I would probably just do the heads and intake. The FR500 cams are just going to move the power up past where the motor will safely rev to.
wals9331 said:
Yup, and you can still make over 400rwhp.
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wals9331 said:
Yes, but I a glad the bottom is forged everytime I go through 7000 and above, which is often now.
Nazman said:
You're right, I'd like to see a dyno sheet comparing the FR500 intake to the 5" shortrunner intake though, for maybe a drag strip car
dammit. I need more money.
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