Fullerton Police Beat Man to Death (Possibly NSFW)

[smitty2919]

Some people on here are jackasses...regardless of WHY he was on the street or WHAT he was doing on the street, an unarmed homeless man surrounded by....what 6 cops...was tazed 5 times and beat with flashlights....I hardly see him as a threat to 6 cops...

Sure, taze him a couple of times if needed, but beat him to the point of what he looks like in the photos? Not needed.

 

[leftlane86gt]

I heard there were 5 cops there by someone in the video. Amazing how 5 cops with tazers couldn't manage to get one man in handcuffs and taken to jail. Instead they murder him with their flashlights by beating him to death. They will find some way to not see any jail time for this. Sad, just plain sad.

 

[Ultor]

Cops beat a man to DEATH and certain members of this forum who require crayon drawings in order to gain an understanding of anything, want to blame the parents.

...Makes perfect sense.

 

[04ScSaleen325]

i work as a cop in nyc, and i can tell you his face was not perfect before this incident. im more than sure he had bruis cuts and scrapes before this run in with the cops. not everything is what it seems.

nobody has the right to pass judgement on the cops, or the victim. neither one of us were there nor none of us know what really happened. i never believe what i read from the media nor should you.

and for the people who are so quick to jump on the cops, i tell them this. try waking up everyday, and putting on a bullet resistan vest on everyday as your work uniform. its not an easy job, so until your there and in the same situation as these cops, dont pass judgement, besides, this video is horrible. you cant see anything, in a court room this would actually help the cops get off. just saying

 

[Coiled03]

I'm not even surprised to see this kind of stuff anymore. Nor am I suprised to see the "we don't know the whole story" crew in here already.

What side of the story do you need to see that would justify 5 or 6 cops beating a man to death? I might have even been willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if they had just, say, severely maimed the guy. But they ****ing KILLED him!!!

 

[04ScSaleen325]

Some people on here are jackasses...regardless of WHY he was on the street or WHAT he was doing on the street, an unarmed homeless man surrounded by....what 6 cops...was tazed 5 times and beat with flashlights....I hardly see him as a threat to 6 cops...

Sure, taze him a couple of times if needed, but beat him to the point of what he looks like in the photos? Not needed.

believe it or not, some people are not affected by getting tazed. people can still stand and fight back while being tazed. its rare but certaintly possible. also take into consideration that the tazer guns run on batteries. the same batteries that are in your remote control. after the first two tazes, the strength of tthe taze decreases dramtically, so by the 4,5, even 6th im sure they were very weak

 

[smitty2919]

i work as a cop in nyc, and i can tell you his face was not perfect before this incident. im more than sure he had bruis cuts and scrapes before this run in with the cops. not everything is what it seems.

nobody has the right to pass judgement on the cops, or the victim. neither one of us were there nor none of us know what really happened. i never believe what i read from the media nor should you.

and for the people who are so quick to jump on the cops, i tell them this. try waking up everyday, and putting on a bullet resistan vest on everyday as your work uniform. its not an easy job, so until your there and in the same situation as these cops, dont pass judgement, besides, this video is horrible. you cant see anything, in a court room this would actually help the cops get off. just saying

Don't take this the wrong way as I commend GOOD cops, but that point of saying it's a tough job with putting on a vest every morning has nothing to do with this, I agree it is a dangerous tough job and I thank you for doing it....still stands that it supposedly (untill full details are released) took 5 cops to subdue 1 man and needed to beat him with flashlights to the point of sustaining enough injury to die later.

I agree the video sucks and would prob help the cops, but some people (not you specifically) on here try to spin this into "what if's" and bring points up that don't have anything to do with this.

 

[04ScSaleen325]

I'm not even surprised to see this kind of stuff anymore. Nor am I suprised to see the "we don't know the whole story" crew in here already.

What side of the story do you need to see that would justify 5 or 6 cops beating a man to death? I might have even been willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if they had just, say, severely maimed the guy. But they ****ing KILLED him!!!

deff understand what your say, but think of this as well as a very valid defense,

the man is homeless, he has nothing to loose. so why not fight back, go to prison where he is sheltered, clothed,fed, givin his med everyday for free. also, being homeless, hes not in the greatest health to begin with, you dont know if he had any prior injuries before this incident ( with he most likely had, he lives on the streets, its just the nature of the beast ). there can be

so many conclusions drawn from this incident, but again no one on this thread unless you were their from the initial crime to the end has any say on what happened, or if it was justified or not ( you people also forget the tazer could have killed him as well if he had a heart condition and that he just wasnt necessarily beat to death )

 

[smitty2919]

believe it or not, some people are not affected by getting tazed. people can still stand and fight back while being tazed. its rare but certaintly possible. also take into consideration that the tazer guns run on batteries. the same batteries that are in your remote control. after the first two tazes, the strength of tthe taze decreases dramtically, so by the 4,5, even 6th im sure they were very weak

Ok, I will see your taze statement and raise you this: I still go back to 5 cops finding the need to beat him with flashlights. Why can't they rush him, lay on him and everyone grab a leg/arm to hold him down? What's the need to hit him in the head with a flashlight?

Hell since he died from it, I would be more OK with the story if the cops shot him in the leg to subdue him but he lived...

 

[04ScSaleen325]

Don't take this the wrong way as I commend GOOD cops, but that point of saying it's a tough job with putting on a vest every morning has nothing to do with this, I agree it is a dangerous tough job and I thank you for doing it....still stands that it supposedly (untill full details are released) took 5 cops to subdue 1 man and needed to beat him with flashlights to the point of sustaining enough injury to die later.

I agree the video sucks and would prob help the cops, but some people (not you specifically) on here try to spin this into "what if's" and bring points up that don't have anything to do with this.

listen, im the first one to say that there are *sshole cops out there, trust me i work with a few. and i didnt mean anything by the whole putting on the vest comment, i just was trying to say, theres no other job like this. i mean some people out in this world live to hurt and kill cops so when you look at it from a cops point of view, why take a chance to not go home to kiss your wife and hug your little girl. you just never really know while being a cop. i guess its diff to understand when your not a cop.

and again like i said in my other pos, unless anyone here ( on this thread ) was there, as an eye witness, from the initial crime to the end, has no right to point their finger at the cops or the victim

 

[smitty2919]

listen, im the first one to say that there are *sshole cops out there, trust me i work with a few. and i didnt mean anything by the whole putting on the vest comment, i just was trying to say, theres no other job like this. i mean some people out in this world live to hurt and kill cops so when you look at it from a cops point of view, why take a chance to not go home to kiss your wife and hug your little girl. you just never really know while being a cop. i guess its diff to understand when your not a cop.

and again like i said in my other pos, unless anyone here ( on this thread ) was there, as an eye witness, from the initial crime to the end, has no right to point their finger at the cops or the victim

Agree on all points good sir. Have yourself a good SAFE day.

 

[Snagged]

i work as a cop in nyc, and i can tell you his face was not perfect before this incident. im more than sure he had bruis cuts and scrapes before this run in with the cops. not everything is what it seems.

nobody has the right to pass judgement on the cops, or the victim. neither one of us were there nor none of us know what really happened. i never believe what i read from the media nor should you.

and for the people who are so quick to jump on the cops, i tell them this. try waking up everyday, and putting on a bullet resistan vest on everyday as your work uniform. its not an easy job, so until your there and in the same situation as these cops, dont pass judgement, besides, this video is horrible. you cant see anything, in a court room this would actually help the cops get off. just saying

Whether or not this guy had cuts and scrapes on him before can be put into question. Him being dead cannot.

I agree cops have it rough, but damn, they beat that dude to death. What a horrible way to meet your end.

 

[04ScSaleen325]

Ok, I will see your taze statement and raise you this: I still go back to 5 cops finding the need to beat him with flashlights. Why can't they rush him, lay on him and everyone grab a leg/arm to hold him down? What's the need to hit him in the head with a flashlight?

Hell since he died from it, I would be more OK with the story if the cops shot him in the leg to subdue him but he lived...

again i cant answer your question, and further more nor can you ( i not trying to be mean or deffensive ( just a friendly debate ). the cops there felt a certain risk and felt that they needed to do what they did to end the risk. whether you or i or anyone else think it was in excess doesnt matter. we werent there nor in their position.

also, who said he was hit in the head over and over again with the flashlight ( also, we are trained that you can use the flashlight in defense, also their is no guidlines on where to hit a "perp". they do advise not to hit in the head but it isnt against the rules.

also, you'll be suprised. it certaintly can take more than 5 or 6 cops to just rush a mentally ill man and subdue him. you have no idea what a mentally ill man is capable of. just 2 weeks ago a mentally ill man was walking down the street all fine but as he passed 2 cops in my pct who i work with stabbed them both. there is a reason why they are mentally ill, you do have to use caution with these people, they are capable of anything in any condition

also your shot in the leg comment, cops are not trained to shoot in the leg or anything like that. we are trained shoot to kill, aim for center mass on the person, the kill zone..

 

[TRXboy]

i work as a cop in nyc

I'm friends with 7 cops that work as an NYPD officer. Shut the **** up if you actually are trying to justify this knowing the SHIT you guys get away with.

 

[Coiled03]

the man is homeless, he has nothing to loose. so why not fight back, go to prison where he is sheltered, clothed,fed, givin his med everyday for free.

If we was on his meds, I doubt he was in a good enough frame of mind to think of such a clever thing. In the moment, I doubt he would stop to think to himself "hey, if I just take a couple flashlights blows to my dome, I can get free healthcare!"

also, being homeless, hes not in the greatest health to begin with, you dont know if he had any prior injuries before this incident ( with he most likely had, he lives on the streets, its just the nature of the beast ).

I don't understand what prior injuries have to do with the beating they put on this guy.

there can be so many conclusions drawn from this incident, but again no one on this thread unless you were their from the initial crime to the end has any say on what happened, or if it was justified or not

Again, what would justify 5 COPS beating one man to DEATH? If it was one cop in fear for his life then maybe, but 5? Come on, man.

you people also forget the tazer could have killed him as well if he had a heart condition and that he just wasnt necessarily beat to death

Yeah, if it was the 5 tazer shots that did him in, that totally justifies it. :rollseyes

 

[TRXboy]

Coiled - Don't bother, it's the NYPD cop way. These guys look for BS arrest's on Thursday night tours, so they can work over time on Friday day's, just so they have the weekend off.

 

[04ScSaleen325]

Whether or not this guy had cuts and scrapes on him before can be put into question. Him being dead cannot.

I agree cops have it rough, but damn, they beat that dude to death.

agreed, i was only referencing that to all the post where people were like look at his face. i was just saying its possible for him to have half of his wounds before hand being homeless and living on the street

listen, when someone dies it sucks. whether they deserved it or not they were someones little boy or girl, like we know in this case bc they intervied his parents. can you quetion why his parents didnt take care of him, or why he was homeless knowing his parents are in his life. ofcourse you, you can question a million things.

its a sh*tty situation, and again untill one of us were there from the initial crim to the end, no one can point fingers at anyone for what happened

 

[99stanger]

Cops... well a lot of them for that matter seem to be on a constant power trip. However underneath that badge the same ones that beat this guy to death would get ****ed up in a one on one... ****ing cowards. The cops were undoubtedly wrong, will they serve time for this? Probably not.

I loved how the parents of homeless man come in for interviews with this (hell they probably already filed papers for a lawsuit), I also loved how the father referenced his son saying "dad, dad, dad" as he was getting beat. And then states "he knows I would have come and rescued him"... maybe you should have rescued him well before that beating, "out of sight, out of mind"... until your son gets beat to death, and then its time to collect. Nothing but assholes in those two clips except for the guy who got beat.

 

[04ScSaleen325]

I'm friends with 7 cops that work as an NYPD officer. Shut the **** up if you actually are trying to justify this knowing the SHIT you guys get away with.

Coiled - Don't bother, it's the NYPD cop way. These guys look for BS arrest's on Thursday night tours, so they can work over time on Friday day's, just so they have the weekend off.

way to be the first guy who has to curse at someone. way to contribute to a debate where no ones attacking anyone. real intelligent

First of all, im not trying to justify anything, Personally i can care less at what happened and the person who was killed. does it suck someone lost their life. absolutely. but i worry about me and my family

also, like i said before, there are *sshole cops out there. no one ever said there werent. and why are you friends with them knowing thats the way you feel about them?

also, i have steady weekends off, i live a normal life, :banana:

 

[smitty2919]

I'm friends with 7 cops that work as an NYPD officer. Shut the **** up if you actually are trying to justify this knowing the SHIT you guys get away with.

Ohh snap LOL