Tuned 2013 GT-R gets sort of R*PED by a Supercharged Challenger

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lmao. Says the guy with a ****ing Lightning! :rollseyes

Yes Lightning FTW! Trust me mr Hemi guy I know exactly what I have and a Challenger feels like a much less performance oriented vehicle that a L. A L doesn't go out it's way to try and ride like a S-Class whereas a Challenger does. It's suspension is so floaty and soft for a performance vehicle it's ridiculous. Seriously I use to always want to drive my L instead of her car, but she was bent on driving that POS. Look I'm not just talking shit I'm being real with you when I say that car is a pathetic excuse for a performance vehicle. The only thing Dodge got right on the new Challengers compared to the new Mustang and Camaro is the retro look. The new Challenger is a legitly good looking rendering of a old Challenger, where the S197 Mustang, and Gen5 Camaro's are not good renderings of the cars their retro designs are meant to resemble.

A C6Z owner could also own a 91 CRX with say a turbocharged H22 swap, and he might be on a Honda forum, and if the topic comes up he might say something like a new Civic SI is overweight because at 2900 lbs it's over 1000 pounds more than his CRX at 1800,(I'm pulling these #'s out of my ass) and then someone else on there might say "says the C6 Z06 owner with the 3,100 lb car." Well okay but a C6 Z06 is also a 505 BHP, rwd car with a 7 liter motor, a tranny beefy enough to handle it, big wheels/tire/brakes, and other things design to make the car compete with other cars such as 911's, Vipers, etc. On the other hand a Civic Si is based on a little cheap FWD eco cars platform, has a N/A 2 liter motor that only makes 200 bhp, and compared to the older Civics it is in fact way overweight compared to other cars in it's performance niche, whereas a new Z06 is not overweight for vehicles in it's class. The point here being a Dodge Challenger at 4,300+ lb's is a way overweight 2 door coupe that suppose to appeal to people looking to buy a sporty 2 door car, whereas at 4,670 lbs a L is not at all a overweight 1/2 ton truck so compared to say a Ram SRT10 it is very light.

Driving a Gen2 L feels like driving a sporty truck(which it is) while driving a Challenger feels like driving a land yacht of a sport car. Besides my L is just my DD work vehicle that I use to tow and haul with. When I finish paying it off I plan to get my TermiFox going. I'm going to try and keep it under 3000 lbs, but we'll have to see.
 
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Yes Lightning FTW! Trust me mr Hemi guy I know exactly what I have and a Challenger feels like a much less performance oriented vehicle that a L. A L doesn't go out it's way to try and ride like a S-Class whereas a Challenger does. It's suspension is so floaty and soft for a performance vehicle it's ridiculous. Seriously I use to always want to drive my L instead of her car, but she was bent on driving that POS. Look I'm not just talking shit I'm being real with you when I say that car is a pathetic excuse for a performance vehicle. The only thing Dodge got right on the new Challengers compared to the new Mustang and Camaro is the retro look. The new Challenger is a legitly good looking rendering of a old Challenger, where the S197 Mustang, and Gen5 Camaro's are not good renderings of the cars their retro designs are meant to resemble.

A C6Z owner could also own a 91 CRX with say a turbocharged H22 swap, and he might be on a Honda forum, and if the topic comes up he might say something like a new Civic SI is overweight because at 2900 lbs it's over 1000 pounds more than his CRX at 1800,(I'm pulling these #'s out of my ass) and then someone else on there might say "says the C6 Z06 owner with the 3,100 lb car." Well okay but a C6 Z06 is also a 505 BHP, rwd car with a 7 liter motor, a tranny beefy enough to handle it, big wheels/tire/brakes, and other things design to make the car compete with other cars such as 911's, Vipers, etc. On the other hand a Civic Si is based on a little cheap FWD eco cars platform, has a N/A 2 liter motor that only makes 200 bhp, and compared to the older Civics it is in fact way overweight compared to other cars in it's performance niche, whereas a new Z06 is not overweight for vehicles in it's class. The point here being a Dodge Challenger at 4,300+ lb's is a way overweight 2 door coupe that suppose to appeal to people looking to buy a sporty 2 door car, whereas at 4,670 lbs a L is not at all a overweight 1/2 ton truck so compared to say a Ram SRT10 it is very light.

Driving a Gen2 L feels like driving a sporty truck(which it is) while driving a Challenger feels like driving a land yacht of a sport car. Besides my L is just my DD work vehicle that I use to tow and haul with. When I finish paying it off I plan to get my TermiFox going. I'm going to try and keep it under 3000 lbs, but we'll have to see.

You just typed a whole bunch of none sense fan boy bullshit so im not reading past the first sentence. Let me know when a stock lighting goes [email protected] Challenger Has
 

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You just typed a whole bunch of none sense fan boy bullshit so im not reading past the first sentence. Let me know when a stock lighting goes [email protected] Challenger Has

Well then don't quote me like a straight up bitch if you don't want to read what I say. Okay a new SRT8 Challenger is faster than a stock Lightning who's design dates back to 99 and that people have managed 13.1/13.2's in with nothing more than removing the spare/jack, airing down the tires and simple things like that. Wooptie MF'in doo. Props. I still much prefer driving my 1/2 ton sport truck to some new way overweight, and under-sprung sports coupe. Sorry.

BTW why do y'all want to act like bitches and take shots at a L when this is a GTR vs Challenger thread? That's what we're discussing here and what I was talking about. The Challengers just do not impress me at all for what they are while the R35 GTR's impress me very much.
 
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Well then don't quote me like a straight up bitch if you don't want to read what I say. Okay a new SRT8 Challenger is faster than a stock Lightning who's design dates back to 99 and that people have managed 13.1/13.2's in with nothing more than removing the spare/jack, airing down the tires and simple things like that. Wooptie MF'in doo. Props. I still much prefer driving my 1/2 ton sport truck to some new way overweight, and under-sprung sports coupe. Sorry.

BTW why do y'all want to act like bitches and take shots at a L when this is a GTR vs Challenger thread? That's what we're discussing here and what I was talking about. The Challengers just do not impress me at all for what they are while the R35 GTR's impress me very much.

Because you came in like a whinning bitch trying to compare a lightning to a Challenger LOL. Theres no comparison the lightning loses in every category even against the Jeep SRT8 outperforms the Lightning in every performance aspect. And the old 6.1 Challenger is faster then a stock lightning and so is the 5.7 R/T Challenger. Facts
 

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If a 12.0 is whoop dee doo BC a stock L has gon 13.1 then I guess the 5.0's are equally as unimpressive being that they run no better stock for stock.

Thats what I don't get around here. A 5.0 is the most impressive car ever built but the 392 is a slow heavy pos yet they run very similar numbers. I would think the car that weighs 700lbs more and running the same times would be MORE impressive. Maybe im just crazy...
 

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The gt-r still out trapped the mopar. Not nut hugging either, just pointing out the fact that it was a drivers race there


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The gt-r still out trapped the mopar. Not nut hugging either, just pointing out the fact that it was a drivers race there


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You should read the whole thread . People already pointed that out . Then other people corrected them since THE
MOPAR LOST A HOSE TOWARDS THE END AND LET OFF THE THROTTLE. THIS SAME CAR TRAPPED 140+ BEFORE .
 

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Because you came in like a whinning bitch trying to compare a lightning to a Challenger LOL. Theres no comparison the lightning loses in every category even against the Jeep SRT8 outperforms the Lightning in every performance aspect. And the old 6.1 Challenger is faster then a stock lightning and so is the 5.7 R/T Challenger. Facts

Now you're just talking shit like a ****** ass bitch which you seem to be with your ****** ass Charger. Yes your car is a POS as far as performance cars go. At least my DD will tow and haul and do about anything any other comparable 1/2 2wd truck will do. The only thing your ugly shit is good for is hauling 4/5 people in a decently brisk car. Don't even try and push that a R/T outperforms a Gen2 L because no the **** it doesn't. That thing is such a floaty/undersprung, and slow 345 HP(if memory serves me right. I sure hope it doesn't make more power anyways seeing as how slow it is) car it's ridiculous. Your just a little shit talk ****** who's pissed that the only SRT8 vehicle that I'm remotely impressed with is a GC which is very good and outperforms a L in most ways even though many say a Gen2 L is a better roll vehicle, but IDK. That doesn't bother me though as it very well should be. A lowly base v8 Mustang GT is a better performer than a POS SRT8 at everything so blahh blahh blahh look I sure got you good. Again you sound like a little bitch with that shit.

Other than being a ****** ass bitch you're also either a ****** ass BS'er or a ****** ass lyre seeing as how you do know I had said anything about a L compared to an Chrysler if you didn't read past the first sentence of my second post. I'm sorry for offending you,(which I obviously made you upset) but you should un-wad your panties.

Y'all are the ones who brought L's up acting like I can't voice my opinion on a new 2 door Challenger being a POS sport car because it weighing maybe 250-300 lbs less than my full-size, iron block, SC'er system equipped, large and heavy as hell 4R100 tranny having, 10 year old 1/2 ton F150 truck that was approaching the end of it production cycle working with a design introduced in 1999 that I use to tow cars, boats, and haul all kind of things with offers slightly less performance than a high-end model Challenger. I must say that that is pretty pathetic, but if that's the case then I guess pretty much all of y'all talking shit about a GTR who don't own new Z06's or Vipers should STFU because your cars don't compared so who are you to voice an opinion.
 
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You're lightning is a POS. Give everyone on this forum the choice of owning a L or 392 or hell even a RT Challenger I can promise you the VAST majority will pick the challengers. And this is a ford site.

I remember back when my pos charger was bone stock and I caught a red light right next to this guy in a L. He had his windows rolled down and his girl sittin right on side of him. They both had that typical smirk a owner of a 14 sec vehicle. It def had exhaust and if I had to guess a pulley (whine was loud). Needless to say I wiped the smirk off their faces. It wasn't a raping but by 100 I had almost two cars on him. Not bad for my slow pos.
 

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You're lightning is a POS. Give everyone on this forum the choice of owning a L or 392 or hell even a RT Challenger I can promise you the VAST majority will pick the challengers. And this is a ford site.

I remember back when my pos charger was bone stock and I caught a red light right next to this guy in a L. He had his windows rolled down and his girl sittin right on side of him. They both had that typical smirk a owner of a 14 sec vehicle. It def had exhaust and if I had to guess a pulley (whine was loud). Needless to say I wiped the smirk off their faces. It wasn't a raping but by 100 I had almost two cars on him. Not bad for my slow pos.

Make a thread with a pole then bitch is your so confident in you ugly POS. You're probably too scared to though. No a R/T is not a better performer. Who wants are Muscle car you can't even mod because you can't crack its BS computer? Many may choose a 470 HP Challenger but see how many would rather have a R/T than a L.

In general the RWD v8 Chrysler performance vehicles are the worst performing new RWD performance v8 American cars on the market. When comparing comparable models the new Mustang and Camaro's easily outclass the Challenger.

Your evaluation of a L shows what a shit talking dumbass you are. First the 01-04 L's are easy 13 second trucks, second even stock pulleyed the blower whine is extremely noticable, also your typical pulleyed, and bolton L is a low 12 second capable vehicle so STFU with your BS. What you say shows you have no real knowledge of a L. It's pretty funny how even with a Vipers v10 a SRT10 didn't really offer any better performance than a Gen2 L, and you couldn't even use it to do truck duties. BTW I didn't buy my L to be the fastest thing out there. I'm coming from a modded Terminator so yeah my L feels pretty slow to me, but oddly enough I like it better than my Cobra that would of walked my L without hardly trying.
 
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Make a thread with a pole then bitch is your so confident in you ugly POS. You're probably too scared to though. No a R/T is not a better performer. Who wants are Muscle car you can't even mod because you can't crack its BS computer? Many may choose a 470 HP Challenger but see how many would rather have a R/T than a L.

In general the RWD v8 Chrysler performance vehicles are the worst performing new RWD performance v8 American cars on the market. When comparing comparable models the new Mustang and Camaro's easily outclass the Challenger.

Your evaluation of a L shows what a shit talking dumbass you are. First the 01-04 L's are easy 13 second trucks, second even stock pulleyed the blower whine is extremely noticable, also your typical pulleyed, and bolton L is a low 12 second capable vehicle so STFU with your BS. What you say shows you have no real knowledge of a L. It's pretty funny how even with a Vipers v10 a SRT10 didn't really offer any better performance than a Gen2 L, and you couldn't even use it to do truck duties. BTW I didn't buy my L to be the fastest thing out there. I'm coming from a modded Terminator so yeah my L feels pretty slow to me, but oddly enough I like it better than my Cobra that would of walked my L without hardly trying.

LMFAOOO!! Holy shit I don't even know where to start!

Ok. Tell me what section would be correct to make a pole thread and I will.

I never once said the RT is a better performer.i simply said the vast majority would pick it over a old run down pickup.

Fyi the computers have been cracked and modding is underway.

Lets see. First off challengers/chargers/300's are not in the same class as the Camaro and Mustang. They are touring cars. Even so you say the challengers get beat by the Camaro and Mustang with EASE. A 392 is as fast or faster than a 5.0. Its also faster than the L99 and LS3 Camaro. Its also as fast as the more expensive ZL1 that has 110 MORE hp. Albeit probably won't win a roll race in the cooler months but at the track its a drivers race and that's pathetic. The RT Challenger is just as fast as a L99 5th Gen stock vs stock. So how you figure the competition is so far ahead idk. I'll just go ahead and blame it on your stupidity.

Now onto your old pos pickup truck. I have never said I knew anything about L's. Thats why I said if I had to GUESS. Stock L's DO NOT run low 13's all day everyday. Have there been some hero runs? Sure. A bone stock 6.1 300 ran 12.50's years ago still on street tires. Am I saying that all 6.1's are mid 12 sec cars all day everyday? **** no!! They are mid-low 13 sec cars. L's are mid 13 to low 14 sec trucks bone stock. And I'm being generous.

Sad part about the L's is that current NON SUPERCHARGED bone stock pick UPS are just as fast. Especially the scsb tundras and rams. You talk all this shit about your "performance pickup" yet your everyday pickup thats all over the road prolly makes you shit your pants!!! LMFAO

Oh and here's the icing on the cake. Since you wanna bash Chrysler performance and we're talking trucks. A bone stock Jeep SRT8 with the same pos 6.1 thats in the cars would ASS RAPE your L over and over and over. LOL
 
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I love the way challengers look, best retro car by far IMO. To have one fast would just be a ton of fun, ultimate sleeper.
 

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