2014 = Surprising Trends

[Madlock]

Found on the TeamShelby site.
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" Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:53 AM
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I have confirmed that 2014 Shelby GT500 production is still continuing and will continue into this December. I will post when the last 2014 Shelby GT500 rolls off of the line. "
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Well, the devil is in the details.

If GT500 production continues into December, it likely will be only for a day or two. If the supply of already-made Trinity motors awaiting chassis mating continues to exceed what's already scheduled through 11/27, it's by precious few if any. Convertible production already will have wrapped prior to the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

It's especially important to remember scheduled production of any particular vehicle may not begin and end on the same calendar day. Some builds that will have begun Wednesday 11/27 are likely not to be complete before post-holiday work resumes on 12/2.

The current MY 2014 GT500 roster numbers 5,685. ANY further vehicles not already accounted-for, including any ceremonial "last few" Ford may have planned for charity auction, its own archives or key program contributors that may be scheduled to begin final assembly after the holiday weekend, are likely to be VERY few indeed - if any.

 

[USV8PWR]

Well, the devil is in the details.

If production continues into December, it likely will be only for a day or two. If the supply of already-made Trinity motors awaiting chassis mating continues to exceed what's already scheduled through 11/27, it's by precious few if any.* Convertible production already will have wrapped prior to the Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

It's especially important to remember scheduled production of any particular vehicle may not begin and end on the same calendar day. *Some builds that will have begun Wednesday 11/27 are likely not to be complete before post-holiday work resumes on 12/2.

The current MY 2014 GT500 roster numbers 5,685. *ANY further vehicles not already accounted-for, including any ceremonial "last few" Ford may have planned for charity auction, its own archives or key program contributors that may be scheduled to begin final assembly after the holiday weekend, are likely to be VERY few indeed - if any.

^^Good points Madlock.

Well that should put the total (2013/2014) production total at 10,570 +a few more, if any. Also if MY2014 hits or slightly exceeds 5,685, Ford will have built 800 MORE (or roughly 16%) 2014 GT500s than they did of the 2013 GT500.

 

[Madlock]

^^Good points Madlock.

Well that should put the total (2013/2014) production total at 10,570 +a few more, if any. Also if MY2014 hits or slightly exceeds 5,685, Ford will have built 800 MORE (or roughly 16%) 2014 GT500s than they did of the 2013 GT500.

MY 2014 already equals 5,685.

Ford will have made about 800 more MY 2014 cars than MY 2013 regardless of any further builds.

The combined total already exceeds 10,594.

 

[USV8PWR]

MY 2014 already equals 5,685.

Ford will have made about 800 more MY 2014 cars than MY 2013 regardless of any further builds.

The combined total already exceeds 10,594.

10-4, gotcha. Well let me ask a couple more questions then. If MY 2013 totaled 4,885 cars (including 92 pre-production models, per the SVT option sheet I received) and MY 2014 already equals 5,685 right now for a total of 10,570, where are these other 24 cars being accounted for? Are they pre-production MY 2014 cars or something else?



Also...off topic, how well do you like your 2013 Taurus SHO? I'm thinking of getting rid of the wife's 2009 Saturn Aura XR and picking up a 2013 SHO with 15K miles for a great deal. Kind of want to see what all the fuss is about these twin turbo motors since I've never been a fan of turbos (either stock or modded) due to their complexities and the issues that inevitably arise but figure I'd try one out before possibly buying another high dollar Mustang with them. ;-) Anyway, I know the 2013 has some new sheetmetal, freshened interior, and a new performance pkg over the 2010 - 2012 models but have yet to talk to anyone who has a 2013. Any thoughts on your car is appreciated Madlock!

 

[Gabed1972]

MY 2014 already equals 5,685.

Ford will have made about 800 more MY 2014 cars than MY 2013 regardless of any further builds.

The combined total already exceeds 10,594.

What was the total number of convertibles built for 2013 and how many were built for 2014 now that the production for convertibles has been completed?

 

[reason4treason]

Here's to the next model guys, hope it's something mean!:beer:

hear, hear :rockon:

 

[Madlock]

10-4, gotcha. Well let me ask a couple more questions then. If MY 2013 totaled 4,885 cars (including 92 pre-production models, per the SVT option sheet I received) and MY 2014 already equals 5,685 right now for a total of 10,570, where are these other 24 cars being accounted for? Are they pre-production MY 2014 cars or something else?



Also...off topic, how well do you like your 2013 Taurus SHO? I'm thinking of getting rid of the wife's 2009 Saturn Aura XR and picking up a 2013 SHO with 15K miles for a great deal. Kind of want to see what all the fuss is about these twin turbo motors since I've never been a fan of turbos (either stock or modded) due to their complexities and the issues that inevitably arise but figure I'd try one out before possibly buying another high dollar Mustang with them. ;-) Anyway, I know the 2013 has some new sheetmetal, freshened interior, and a new performance pkg over the 2010 - 2012 models but have yet to talk to anyone who has a 2013. Any thoughts on your car is appreciated Madlock!

Since I wasn't responsible for furnishing whatever data SVT chose to report, how could I account for any discrepancies? Since SVT is responsible for neither allocations nor assembly and passes along data it neither creates nor compiles, ascribe to it any particular value you choose.

If this is the hottest pip on your radar, you have more free time and less on your plate than I'm interested in squaring. I do know more than 92 VINs were assigned to pre-production MY 2013 cars, so there's just one of many starting points.

If you want to know about a Taurus SHO, go test drive one. That's just one reason dealers exist. I don't know what about the '13 Performance Package is supposed to be different. If you have any bias against turbos, you may as well plan to never own another new car. What the hell do McLaren and Bugatti know anyway? Maybe pitch 'em the Aura and see if they leap at it.

 

[Gabed1972]

What was the total number of convertibles built for 2013 and how many were built for 2014 now that the production for convertibles has been completed?

If anyone has this info please post :bowdown:

 

[Sdsaathoff]

If anyone has this info please post :bowdown:

Here you go.

2013 Production Numbers - Shelby GT500 (2013-2014) - Team Shelby

Madlock is probably tired of posting these numbers for the 14. The specific numbers change weekly so when people ask it changes every week. Hopefully a chart like this is released for the 14 soon....

 

[Iceman5000]

Here you go.

2013 Production Numbers - Shelby GT500 (2013-2014) - Team Shelby

Madlock is probably tired of posting these numbers for the 14. The specific numbers change weekly so when people ask it changes every week. Hopefully a chart like this is released for the 14 soon....

Wont be released until April.

 

[Madlock]

Wont be released until April.

The problem with those summary sheets is how incomplete they are, not to mention the lack of specificity they provide. They represent only one particular snapshot of the model year campaign, not necessarily (or even usually) every car made as a GT500 in their totality.

I don't care if a particular car was made for bloggers to beat on during press junkets, rolled straight into the Ford family's personal, private fleet or sent to IIHS for head butting into a steel plinth. If it bore a GT500 VIN, even if only to head straight to a museum for permanent static display, I want it accounted for. Granted, that's not likely to mean another 100-200 cars, but it's not complete all the same, even if a car was written-off due to a train derailment in transit to a dealer from Flat Rock.

And then there's the summary totals for take rates that give no insight whatsoever into just how unique a particular combination may be or many other interesting aspects like the HUGE numbers of Convertibles Canadians buy every year and how Mexico has become an increasingly popular market with its rapidly growing economy. Then there's how surprisingly few "loaded" 2013-14 cars exist compared to their predecessors and how many more Convertibles are fully-optioned than Coupes. Even knowing which paint colors tend to be the best and least equipped can be interesting - or how many retail buyers vs dealers would order the Performance and Track Packages, but inexplicably NOT Recaro seats for track days. Geographic distribution and how order habits change throughout the year tell their own stories.

The lack of disclaimers and even a key handful of interesting factoids are what I find to be so disappointing about the "summary" sheets Ford sells (which reproducing for free download isn't exactly cool). Who wouldn't hate to discover his first of 1,123 Black 2014 cars made that he immediately put into storage for two decades was actually the second or third some twenty years later if even-earlier builds start crossing the block at Mecum or Barrett Jackson?

The summary sheets are relatively comprehensive and close enough for jazz. But they're not necessarily always absolutely complete and they don't make clear whatever may have been withheld. It's "their" list - not necessarily "the" list.

 

[97StangSVT]

Anyone know if there are any 2014 DIB coupes with stripe delete available from a dealer's inventory? I would prefer all options or all options minus glass roof, but I am interested in knowing if there are any at all. Thanks in advance!

 

[Chris!]

Anyone know if there are any 2014 DIB coupes with stripe delete available from a dealer's inventory? I would prefer all options or all options minus glass roof, but I am interested in knowing if there are any at all. Thanks in advance!

If you can't find one stripe delete. Find one with black stripes, pull them off.

The ones with white stripes have white stripes on the seats too. Black stripes do not

 

[97StangSVT]

If you can't find one stripe delete. Find one with black stripes, pull them off.

The ones with white stripes have white stripes on the seats too. Black stripes do not

Thanks Chris! I would rather not pull the stripes off if possible. I do like the all black interior, so I wouldn't want one with white stripes.

 

[Chris!]

Yea. I just know how dealers are and they rarely delete the stripes for in stock units

Good luck!

 

[97StangSVT]

Well, after doing some searching on cars.com, I was able to locate one, but it is in California. Are the California cars different than other ones for the rest of the US (emissions, smog, etc)? What is the invoice price for this?

2014 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500, $67,690 - Cars.com

Thanks in advance!

Joe

 

[Chris!]

No. They are not different. All GT500s have California emissions regardless of state. No need to worry.

Invoice is about $4k less than MSRP.

Dealers in Cali are generally still getting over sticker.

In this market, about $2k off is the norm.

 

[Sdsaathoff]

The problem with those summary sheets is how incomplete they are, not to mention the lack of specificity they provide. They represent only one particular snapshot of the model year campaign, not necessarily (or even usually) every car made as a GT500 in their totality.

I don't care if a particular car was made for bloggers to beat on during press junkets, rolled straight into the Ford family's personal, private fleet or sent to IIHS for head butting into a steel plinth. If it bore a GT500 VIN, even if only to head straight to a museum for permanent static display, I want it accounted for. Granted, that's not likely to mean another 100-200 cars, but it's not complete all the same, even if a car was written-off due to a train derailment in transit to a dealer from Flat Rock.

And then there's the summary totals for take rates that give no insight whatsoever into just how unique a particular combination may be or many other interesting aspects like the HUGE numbers of Convertibles Canadians buy every year and how Mexico has become an increasingly popular market with its rapidly growing economy. Then there's how surprisingly few "loaded" 2013-14 cars exist compared to their predecessors and how many more Convertibles are fully-optioned than Coupes. Even knowing which paint colors tend to be the best and least equipped can be interesting - or how many retail buyers vs dealers would order the Performance and Track Packages, but inexplicably NOT Recaro seats for track days. Geographic distribution and how order habits change throughout the year tell their own stories.

The lack of disclaimers and even a key handful of interesting factoids are what I find to be so disappointing about the "summary" sheets Ford sells (which reproducing for free download isn't exactly cool). Who wouldn't hate to discover his first of 1,123 Black 2014 cars made that he immediately put into storage for two decades was actually the second or third some twenty years later if even-earlier builds start crossing the block at Mecum or Barrett Jackson?

The summary sheets are relatively comprehensive and close enough for jazz. But they're not necessarily always absolutely complete and they don't make clear whatever may have been withheld. It's "their" list - not necessarily "the" list.

I completely agree, which I would love to get a copy of the databases for the Shelby's. I would build a website for people to register their cars and look this stuff up. The exact thing happened to my 66 Shelby. For decades it was thought to be the lowest numbered Hertz car. Several years back, someone was able to acquire some new documentation that was very complete with the Hertz cars. This documentation showed that there were two "prototypes" for Hertz execs that disappeared and two that also disappeared shortly after their rental duties. To this day, no one knows if those four cars were crushed or whatever. Mine is the lowest numbered car that has been located, but technically the fifth Hertz car if you count the exec cars that were never rented...

 

[usmotox]

To Madlock, again thanks for the input you have provided it must have totally screwed up your English lit teacher every time she read your homework lol from the base coupe DIB/Red just recaros in yes rural NC

 

[biminiLX]

I completely agree, which I would love to get a copy of the databases for the Shelby's. I would build a website for people to register their cars and look this stuff up. The exact thing happened to my 66 Shelby. For decades it was thought to be the lowest numbered Hertz car. Several years back, someone was able to acquire some new documentation that was very complete with the Hertz cars. This documentation showed that there were two "prototypes" for Hertz execs that disappeared and two that also disappeared shortly after their rental duties. To this day, no one knows if those four cars were crushed or whatever. Mine is the lowest numbered car that has been located, but technically the fifth Hertz car if you count the exec cars that were never rented...

This is actually a Hertz car (should be black/gold) that I am buying from my mother (she got it in the divorce :nonono.
Anyway, my dad knows a ton about it and his '67 GT500, but I'd love to know more. I do know its a rare steel hood/steel scoop car :shrug:
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-J