2015 Shelby GT350 Powertrain

[DSG2003SVT]

10 more grand for that.

The guys buying these cars will be the first ones to the grocery store and mid pack on road course race day. All in what you want I suppose.

If you are a serious road course racer, you don't choose a Mustang as your weapon of choice. You pick a two seater thats closer to 3000lbs rather than 4000lbs.

Woohoo you can beat a camaro, what are you going to do next to real track pedigreed, track oriented cars?

Do you watch road racing? Do you see how well the Boss 302R/S does compared to Porsches, Aston Martins, and Z28Rs? The GT350R will be in good company. The regular GT350 may need some more track oriented tires for serious track work, but it will be right with or well ahead of anything within $20,000 of it.

If you want a C6 Z06, which I'm guessing is what you're alluding to, I'd say to just go ahead and get one. I think that this car will be practically as quick, better built, and much less mid-life crisis than C6 Z06. The regular 350 will also have a back seat so that your kids can enjoy it. I'm selfish, so I want an R.

A car built to be a two-seater will always have a better starting point than one built to be a four-seater. There's no way around that. You have to compare the GT350 to the Camaro ZL1/Z28, BMW M3/4, Porsche 911, and Mercedes AMG C-class (if they even make that anymore). It will do plenty well against all of those, and it's easily cheaper than all but the ZL1. When Ford says that they're going to build the most track capable Mustang in history, don't expect it to be focused on straight line performance or big power numbers…or not a Mustang.

 

[Voltwings]

10 more grand for that. I never knew SVTP had so many road course racers/experts.

The guys buying these cars will be the first ones to the grocery store and mid pack on road course race day if they are lucky. All in what you want I suppose.

If you are a serious road course racer, you don't choose a Mustang as your weapon of choice. You pick a two seater thats closer to 3000lbs rather than 4000lbs.

Woohoo you can beat a camaro, what are you going to do next to real track pedigreed, track oriented cars? You will be looking at Vette, Viper, Porsche, GTR, tail lights all day. If your lucky maybe even get to lose to Ferraris, Mclarens and Lamborghinis.

More serious road racers run mustangs than any of the cars you mentioned, and seeing as how its probably safe to say i spend more time at the track than you, we'll be going with my word on this. Your ability to buy a car is not a direct translation to your ability to drive it. Hell, MOST serious road racers run miatas because they can turn similar times to cars with 2-3-4x the power for 1/4 the cost. The number of miatas at any given event easily rivals the number of porsches or vettes

 

[OaktownACE]

More serious road racers run mustangs than any of the cars you mentioned, and seeing as how its probably safe to say i spend more time at the track than you, we'll be going with my word on this. Your ability to buy a car is not a direct translation to your ability to drive it. Hell, MOST serious road racers run miatas because they can turn similar times to cars with 2-3-4x the power for 1/4 the cost. The number of miatas at any given event easily rivals the number of porsches or vettes

I gotta admit that Miatas can be a lot of fun in the twisties. Not going to set any speed records but they make for a fun drive.

 

[Voltwings]

I gotta admit that Miatas can be a lot of fun in the twisties. Not going to set any speed records but they make for a fun drive.

I sold my mustang for a more family oriented daily and got a miata to replace it racing, and you're right, its slow haha. The best thing though is that 4 miata tires cost what 1 mustang tire did, it just makes too much sense, they're so cheap. What you know about those 205 / 50 / 15s :coolman:

 

[SirShaun]

More serious road racers run mustangs than any of the cars you mentioned, and seeing as how its probably safe to say i spend more time at the track than you, we'll be going with my word on this. Your ability to buy a car is not a direct translation to your ability to drive it. Hell, MOST serious road racers run miatas because they can turn similar times to cars with 2-3-4x the power for 1/4 the cost. The number of miatas at any given event easily rivals the number of porsches or vettes

Im understanding what your saying, but I just cant get my mind around why someone would buy this as a track car, knowing its a mediocre track car. Is it a smart buy at that point? I personally would have buyers remorse the second it gets spanked on by something lesser, like a Miata, S2000, or a C5.

I would be the type to tin can a C5 Z06, Cage it, and build on it, if I truly wanted a track car.

I set out with a purpose for my GT500. I wanted it to be a Street/Strip monster. Once it sees 9s through the 6 speed its done. End game would be throw an auto in it and go for 8s. Not much on the street around here that will touch it.

I myself cant find purpose for the GT350. It's a car you throw a CAI, Tune, Exhaust on and get beat a lot.

Can you imagine the amount of kill videos that will be posted bashing this car?

I guess I should be mad at Chevrolet and Ford for creating this half ass road course muscle car battle. If they want to make a track car, they should make a track car, not just re purpose something that will never be a great track car to begin with.

 

[DSG2003SVT]

Im understanding what your saying, but I just cant get my mind around why someone would buy this as a track car, knowing its a mediocre track car. Is it a smart buy at that point? I personally would have buyers remorse the second it gets spanked on by something lesser, like a Miata, S2000, or a C5.

I would be the type to tin can a C5 Z06, Cage it, and build on it, if I truly wanted a track car.

I set out with a purpose for my GT500. I wanted it to be a Street/Strip monster. Once it sees 9s through the 6 speed its done. End game would be throw an auto in it and go for 8s. Not much on the street around here that will touch it.

I myself cant find purpose for the GT350. It's a car you throw a CAI, Tune, Exhaust on and get beat a lot.

Can you imagine the amount of kill videos that will be posted bashing this car?

If people are buying them to drag race, then they probably deserve to be humiliated. If this thing turns out some serious power with bolt-ons and exhaust though, the only cars that will beat it in a straight line are boosted, sprayed, or purpose built ones. 600whp with a huge power band is no joke.

 

[AustinSN]

Im understanding what your saying, but I just cant get my mind around why someone would buy this as a track car, knowing its a mediocre track car. Is it a smart buy at that point? I personally would have buyers remorse the second it gets spanked on by something lesser, like a Miata, S2000, or a C5.

I would be the type to tin can a C5 Z06, Cage it, and build on it, if I truly wanted a track car.

I set out with a purpose for my GT500. I wanted it to be a Street/Strip monster. Once it sees 9s through the 6 speed its done. End game would be throw an auto in it and go for 8s. Not much on the street around here that will touch it.

I myself cant find purpose for the GT350. It's a car you throw a CAI, Tune, Exhaust on and get beat a lot.

Can you imagine the amount of kill videos that will be posted bashing this car?

You bought a GT500 to have a street/strip monster, knowing that's a mediocre street/strip car. I would be the type to buy a Fox and built on it, if I truly wanted a street/strip monster...

 

[Voltwings]

Im understanding what your saying, but I just cant get my mind around why someone would buy this as a track car, knowing its a mediocre track car. Is it a smart buy at that point? I personally would have buyers remorse the second it gets spanked on by something lesser, like a Miata, S2000, or a C5.

I would be the type to tin can a C5 Z06, Cage it, and build on it, if I truly wanted a track car.

I set out with a purpose for my GT500. I wanted it to be a Street/Strip monster. Once it sees 9s through the 6 speed its done. End game would be throw an auto in it and go for 8s. Not much on the street around here that will touch it.

I myself cant find purpose for the GT350. It's a car you throw a CAI, Tune, Exhaust on and get beat a lot.

Can you imagine the amount of kill videos that will be posted bashing this car?

You are making a lot of assumptions here, i find this is a hard recipe to call "mediocre," but at this point we are both shooting from the hip.

Secondly, on an open track day, there will always be someone with more money, more experience, knows the track better, what have you, who is faster. Its also more just for fun at this point, i have seen all matter of cars out there, and people just having fun. Its just the way of things. Second, in class racing, the cars are classed according to points so that the racing stays competitive, and sure you'll have some freaks here and there, but for the most part it comes down to a drivers race.

The same can be said about a guy who buys a $3k fox shell, puts a nice motor and driveline in there and runs 9s for half of what you spent. Will you now have buyers remorse? If your one goal is going as fast as possible as cheap as possible, than probably. IF your goal was to have your car do what you want it to, then who cares.

Same can be said about the Z06. Its not a straight line car, and the only annoying thing is that people dont seem to understand the aero on that car - its not meant to be a straight line car. "ohh, but it has 650 hp, it has to be fast." Well, no, aero makes a huge difference and can knock 20-30 mph off the top speed certain cars see on track depending on set up, but they'll pick up 4-5 seconds a lap so, pick your poison.

 

[SirShaun]

You bought a GT500 to have a street/strip monster, knowing that's a mediocre street/strip car. I would be the type to buy a Fox and built on it, if I truly wanted a street/strip monster...

Maybe I should have specified I wanted something newer. I see what you did there tho, and I like it. I'm still having wet dreams about a big block fox. 460 Bored and Stroked to a 600+, dropped in a fox, with that factory 4 link just working for it. Let me stop before I get moist.

Definitely a goal, once I get a tow pig and a trailer. Street will be optional for that one.

 

[DSG2003SVT]

Maybe I should have specified I wanted something newer. I see what you did there tho, and I like it. I'm still having wet dreams about a big block fox. 460 Bored and Stroked to a 600+, dropped in a fox, with that factory 4 link just working for it. Let me stop before I get moist.

If you're interested in a new Mustang that's built for a straight line, I'd say hold out. I'm sure Ford has another GT500 on the way. You're not wrong in your thinking, this just isn't the right car for you. Plain and simple.

 

[TheVikingRL]

10 more grand for that. I never knew SVTP had so many road course racers/experts.

The guys buying these cars will be the first ones to the grocery store and mid pack on road course race day if they are lucky. All in what you want I suppose.

If you are a serious road course racer, you don't choose a Mustang as your weapon of choice. You pick a two seater thats closer to 3000lbs rather than 4000lbs.

Woohoo you can beat a camaro, what are you going to do next to real track pedigreed, track oriented cars? You will be looking at Vette, Viper, Porsche, GTR, tail lights all day. If your lucky maybe even get to lose to Ferraris, Mclarens and Lamborghinis.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much (any) time on a road course. Plenty of Mustangs, Camaro's, etc out there because they're cheaper and easily modified. It all comes down to driver skill and for most of us the car has very little to do with who's passing who. Not to mention that many supercars are driven by posers who couldn't navigate an off ramp properly.

 

[treynor]

10 more grand for that. I never knew SVTP had so many road course racers/experts.

The guys buying these cars will be the first ones to the grocery store and mid pack on road course race day if they are lucky. All in what you want I suppose.

If you are a serious road course racer, you don't choose a Mustang as your weapon of choice. You pick a two seater thats closer to 3000lbs rather than 4000lbs.

Woohoo you can beat a camaro, what are you going to do next to real track pedigreed, track oriented cars? You will be looking at Vette, Viper, Porsche, GTR, tail lights all day. If your lucky maybe even get to lose to Ferraris, Mclarens and Lamborghinis.

My offer stands. Bring your high-powered modified GT500 out to Sonoma Raceway and I will bring my underpowered GT350. Videos will ensue.

 

[SirShaun]

I'm guessing you haven't spent much (any) time on a road course. Plenty of Mustangs, Camaro's, etc out there because they're cheaper and easily modified. It all comes down to driver skill and for most of us the car has very little to do with who's passing who. Not to mention that many supercars are driven by posers who couldn't navigate an off ramp properly.

I'm pretty good at Forza. I'd like to think of myself as an Apex Predator. I know all about racing lines, heel toeing, Scandinavian flicking, all that jazz. I guess it'd be fun to hot lap a GT350 but you won't catch me out there banging up my personal 50k GT350. Too much wear and tear associated with road racing. I don't have money like that yet.

 

[SirShaun]

My offer stands. Bring your high-powered modified GT500 out to Sonoma Raceway and I will bring my underpowered GT350. Videos will ensue.

I wish I could. You see, the way Virginia is setup...

 

[DSG2003SVT]

I'm pretty good at Forza. I'd like to think of myself as an Apex Predator. I know all about racing lines, heel toeing, Scandinavian flicking, all that jazz. I guess it'd be fun to hot lap a GT350 but you won't catch me out there banging up my personal 50k GT350. Too much wear and tear associated with road racing. I don't have money like that yet.

If the car is built to hold up to it, and you don't crash it, you'll only be buying tires, fluids, and brake pads. It's not a whole lot different than running 9s in a street car at the drag strip. You'll break things and replace tires if you do it for long enough.

 

[Voltwings]

Reason number 2 we switched from the 24k mustang to the 4k miata lol, so i will give you that. The 5.0 was a beast on track, but i ain't about that life, if the miata gets wrecked i could care less you know, you can basically build a new one for $1000 out of the junk yard.

 

[Serpent]

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I seriously don't think that CC brakes are in there anymore, buddy. I believe they changed their original plan. I'm not arguing, I just want to get it out there if it's true.

No complaints from me, two piece rotors will be cheaper to replace than carbon rotors! One of the first things I would do is lighten the rotating mass. Two piece brakes, lighter wheels, carbon or aluminum DS.


Btw, does anyone know if this car is sporting a 1 piece DS (aluminum or carbon)?

 

[Serpent]

I wish I could. You see, the way Virginia is setup...

Ben has PM'd me about loading up his Ferrari to race in France Paul Ricard. I'm sure he can fly his toys to Virginia and take you up on that offer. The guy also has a Cobra Jet for your GT500. oke:

 

[TheVikingRL]

I'm pretty good at Forza. I'd like to think of myself as an Apex Predator. I know all about racing lines, heel toeing, Scandinavian flicking, all that jazz. I guess it'd be fun to hot lap a GT350 but you won't catch me out there banging up my personal 50k GT350. Too much wear and tear associated with road racing. I don't have money like that yet.

It's honestly the most fun you would ever have with your car. It's not dirt cheap, but it's not necessarily expensive or that hard on the car either. Not like you're actually racing and bumping into people. You set your own pace, need a wave by to pass others and have an instructor with you to help in most cases. The only real expenses most beginners incur are track fees, tires, brakes, and track day insurance (if you're smart). You can almost always find the GT500 Goodyear's in the classified section for sale cheap which make decent track days tires for a beginner/intermediate IMO. Good set of track pads, good fluid and $100 Centric rotors and you're about all set. Try it once, you'll likely be hooked.

 

[SirShaun]

Ben has PM'd me about loading up his Ferrari to race in France Paul Ricard. I'm sure he can fly his toys to Virginia and take you up on that offer. The guy also has a Cobra Jet for your GT500. oke:

Ha I know about Treynor. I envy the man. All of the humiliation in the world and it would still be a win for me to meet him and see his cars.