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..... However, if this was MMA, how sure are we that McGregor would win?? CM rarely take fights to the ground except for the 1st Diaz fight where he was looking for a way out of the fight and went for that half-ass double leg and got submitted. I see it as CM winning 7 of 10 MMA matches against FM and FM winning 9.5 of 10 Boxing matches against CM.....

Have you watched any of Connor's fights in their entirety or are you catching the ESPN highlights the next day. Serious question.

I couldnt disagree more with you.
 

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I'm with you on the boxing match. This type of fight heavily favors Fm.

In the octagon Floyd wins 0 times in my opinion. He can't run away in the UFC. Conor would murder him in short, short order.

I think FM has a better shot at beating CM in a MMA fight than CM has at beating FM in a boxing match. FM still has much better reflexes, hand speed, cardio, and head movement. A boxer should have a decent chance in a MMA against an MMA fighter that prefers to stand and not go to the ground. I believe even Dana White knows this. Example, remember when James Toney wanted to fight in the UFC and he kept going to press conferences and calling out Chuck Liddell but Dana gave him Randy Couture instead...why do you think he did that?? Because Toney was a real good boxer and he knew all Liddell ever did was fight stand up. Toney, even at that age, would have KO'ed Liddell without much challenge. Couture however, is a damn good wrestler and Dana knew what he was going to do against a fighter with sole experience in boxing.

I also want to add, I don't trust CM's heart after the Diaz fights. He gave up in the first up and literally ran away in the 2nd half of the second fight. Floyd, as much as people that don't know the sport want to say, doesn't run from his opponents. He uses lateral movement and opens up shots. Watch his fights against Corrales, Cotto, Judah, Hatton, and especially Gatti. Yes Floyd has been more defensive in his later years, but those were against skilled boxers which he still dominated against. CM was getting caught with jab-straights in both fights against Diaz. Nate Diaz is freaking slooooww, Floyd is going to hit him with these shots a will.
 

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I think FM has a better shot at beating CM in a MMA fight than CM has at beating FM in a boxing match. FM still has much better reflexes, hand speed, cardio, and head movement. A boxer should have a decent chance in a MMA against an MMA fighter that prefers to stand and not go to the ground. I believe even Dana White knows this. Example, remember when James Toney wanted to fight in the UFC and he kept going to press conferences and calling out Chuck Liddell but Dana gave him Randy Couture instead...why do you think he did that?? Because Toney was a real good boxer and he knew all Liddell ever did was fight stand up. Toney, even at that age, would have KO'ed Liddell without much challenge. Couture however, is a damn good wrestler and Dana knew what he was going to do against a fighter with sole experience in boxing.

I also want to add, I don't trust CM's heart after the Diaz fights. He gave up in the first up and literally ran away in the 2nd half of the second fight. Floyd, as much as people that don't know the sport want to say, doesn't run from his opponents. He uses lateral movement and opens up shots. Watch his fights against Corrales, Cotto, Judah, Hatton, and especially Gatti. Yes Floyd has been more defensive in his later years, but those were against skilled boxers which he still dominated against. CM was getting caught with jab-straights in both fights against Diaz. Nate Diaz is freaking slooooww, Floyd is going to hit him with these shots a will.


This is a great post and Im with you on most of it. I'll say this. Mayweather has no knock out (or even knock down) power any longer. I exaggerated by saying he runs away but you are right in that he is extremely skilled in NOT getting hit. He is extremely quick, hand speed is deadly fast, and his cardio (assuming he trains) will be VERY tough to match, ok--wont be matched, by CM.

All that said, the Diaz fights said a LOT about Connor. They exposed his lack of a ground game (which he wont need) and also exposed his LACK of cardio training. However, those fights also highlighted his laser sharp ability to land punches. Connor absolutely wrecked Nate's face and CM also scored knock downs via devastating strikes against the bigger man in Nate Diaz. I was impressed with CM's power and strike efficiency. Nate has a chin that is as tough as nails. Nate is ONE TOUGH MF'r. But remember he walks around heavier than CM and CM's performance was impressive in the second bout where he faced a stronger/better prepped and trained Nate Diaz. The Diaz Bro's are no frickin joke. Those guys have RIDICULOUS cardio efficiency. They do marathons and triathalons for FUN! Truthfully, im shocked Connor was able to go the distance in the second bout.

I still know Connor would have his way with FM in a UFC fight, but he will likely get his ass handed to him in this boxing match.
 

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This is a great post and Im with you on most of it. I'll say this. Mayweather has no knock out (or even knock down) power any longer. I exaggerated by saying he runs away but you are right in that he is extremely skilled in NOT getting hit. He is extremely quick, hand speed is deadly fast, and his cardio (assuming he trains) will be VERY tough to match, ok--wont be matched, by CM.

All that said, the Diaz fights said a LOT about Connor. They exposed his lack of a ground game (which he wont need) and also exposed his LACK of cardio training. However, those fights also highlighted his laser sharp ability to land punches. Connor absolutely wrecked Nate's face and CM also scored knock downs via devastating strikes against the bigger man in Nate Diaz. I was impressed with CM's power and strike efficiency. Nate has a chin that is as tough as nails. Nate is ONE TOUGH MF'r. But remember he walks around heavier than CM and CM's performance was impressive in the second bout where he faced a stronger/better prepped and trained Nate Diaz. The Diaz Bro's are no frickin joke. Those guys have RIDICULOUS cardio efficiency. They do marathons and triathalons for FUN! Truthfully, im shocked Connor was able to go the distance in the second bout.

I still know Connor would have his way with FM in a UFC fight, but he will likely get his ass handed to him in this boxing match.

Agreed.
I wasn't trying to sound like i was knocking the Diaz brothers. Those dudes are some tough SOB's. And if pot heads ever need somebody to represent them, these dudes would be it. They run marathons and have world class BJJ. They're not the best public speakers but so what haha

Conner does have a nice left straight, which if can combine it with head movement, will be his best weapon. Hopefully he works on getting his head out of the center line after he finishes his combinations. There is also something I, and many others, have been waiting to see from Floyd - when will he "get old". They're all not cut from the same clothe as Roberto Duran, Archie Moore, or Bernard Hopkins; Floyd has done a great job at avoiding damage in his later years, but he has taken 1-2 years off a few times in his career and is coming off a 2 year layoff now. There will be a time when FM won't have the same reflexes and speed he has always had. They say the first thing to go as you age is speed and reflexes, the last is power...We know FM doesn't have power so there goes his advantages. The best example of this is Roy Jones jr. I truly believe Jones is top 3 in GOAT boxers. The guy had natural talent that made him dominate against the best of the best in the 90's. He didn't make it past 35 yrs old before those physical attributes were gone. At 40, there might be a chance Floyd loses those natural gifts. We will see...
 

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Example, remember when James Toney wanted to fight in the UFC and he kept going to press conferences and calling out Chuck Liddell but Dana gave him Randy Couture instead...why do you think he did that??
Let's back that truck up there slugger. James Toney gave Dana White the choice of opponents....Couture was one of them. They ran with it because it was the perfect showcase styles that made a better story to sell.

I hate CM but I hope he wins just to shut the boxers up. It isn't going to happen though. FM is going to make him look like an fool. I really hope Conor drops him on his head of the clinch just to send him a message first.

And whomever said Money v Pacman was a terrible fight is off their rocker.
 

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Let's back that truck up there slugger. James Toney gave Dana White the choice of opponents....Couture was one of them. They ran with it because it was the perfect showcase styles that made a better story to sell.

I hate CM but I hope he wins just to shut the boxers up. It isn't going to happen though. FM is going to make him look like an fool. I really hope Conor drops him on his head of the clinch just to send him a message first.

And whomever said Money v Pacman was a terrible fight is off their rocker.

I hope CM is losing and takes FM to the ground and puts him in a rear naked choke.
 

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Is professional Boxing still a thing? I'm surprised it is still around.

Conor McGregor is going to bring his cocky Irish skill set and take the old boxer out. Period...end of story.
 

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Boxer will win the boxing match. Why is that so hard to grasp. He will dance around and steal the fight in points and hardly take any hits. I'm hoping Mcgregor can make a miracle happen, but my 100 bucks on the undefeated says otherwise.
 

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I hope CM is losing and takes FM to the ground and puts him in a rear naked choke.
Ben Fowlkes put it best in the Co-Main Event Podcast, that he hoped CM swept Money's legs in the clinch just to remind him what's what and how this would go if it was a real fight. That's what I'm kinda hoping for.

I'm a huge boxing fan but the sport has an air of invincibility that reality doesn't support.
 

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Let's back that truck up there slugger. James Toney gave Dana White the choice of opponents....Couture was one of them. They ran with it because it was the perfect showcase styles that made a better story to sell.

I hate CM but I hope he wins just to shut the boxers up. It isn't going to happen though. FM is going to make him look like an fool. I really hope Conor drops him on his head of the clinch just to send him a message first.

And whomever said Money v Pacman was a terrible fight is off their rocker.
I remember Toney calling out Liddell way before Randy was ever mentioned. If anything, Toney vs Liddell would have made a better story since it could have been sold as two sluggers going at it. Toney vs Couture was way too predictable.

For those of you insinuating that boxing is dead (people have been saying that since the 80's yet here it is) you guys aren't actual fans of the sport. There have been many great fights through the years that were better than any Tyson fight.
 

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I remember Toney calling out Liddell way before Randy was ever mentioned. If anything, Toney vs Liddell would have made a better story since it could have been sold as two sluggers going at it. Toney vs Couture was way too predictable.

For those of you insinuating that boxing is dead (people have been saying that since the 80's yet here it is) you guys aren't actual fans of the sport. There have been many great fights through the years that were better than any Tyson fight.
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/29/1595780/ufc-118-quote-of-the-day-james

"The person I wanted to fight right off the bat was Brock Lesnar," Toney said in a live chat with MMAFighting.com. "He's a champion, I'm a champion and I wanted to do it. But they said I couldn't do that. Then they said, 'How about Kimbo?' But I said, 'That's too easy. That's like kicking a little kid's butt.' But then Randy started saying he wanted to fight me, so I said, 'OK, you're the first one getting it.'"
 

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I remember Toney calling out Liddell way before Randy was ever mentioned. If anything, Toney vs Liddell would have made a better story since it could have been sold as two sluggers going at it. Toney vs Couture was way too predictable.

For those of you insinuating that boxing is dead (people have been saying that since the 80's yet here it is) you guys aren't actual fans of the sport. There have been many great fights through the years that were better than any Tyson fight.

Tired of the corruption and incompetence. Take the Pacquiao decision tonight for example.

As for Mayweather and McGregor, it's pretty obvious that each fighter would win in their respective sport.
 

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https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/7/29/1595780/ufc-118-quote-of-the-day-james

"The person I wanted to fight right off the bat was Brock Lesnar," Toney said in a live chat with MMAFighting.com. "He's a champion, I'm a champion and I wanted to do it. But they said I couldn't do that. Then they said, 'How about Kimbo?' But I said, 'That's too easy. That's like kicking a little kid's butt.' But then Randy started saying he wanted to fight me, so I said, 'OK, you're the first one getting it.'"
That's an interview from ufc 118...Toney was calling out Chuck since around ufc 108... All i'm saying is why didn't Dana just give Toney the guy he initially called out. It seems like Dana didn't want to give him Chuck and was trying to jedi mind trick him into fighting someone else by throwing other names out there in order for him to forget about Chuck. Toney is a great boxer but not the brightest bulb.

Tired of the corruption and incompetence. Take the Pacquiao decision tonight for example.

As for Mayweather and McGregor, it's pretty obvious that each fighter would win in their respective sport.
Decisions like that suck, but it's nothing new (unfortunately) to sports where judges decide the winner. UFC has robberies and controversy calls too. Just last week a UFC ref stopped a fight where the guy didn't even tap. Even Pride had their controversy.
Let me ask you something, do you just watch big name fighters fight? Like I said, there are a lot of good fights that come on that don't have the name Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo, or GGG. Just gotta watch.
 

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A guy from my neighborhood and a true legend of the sport, Boom Boom Mancini. Watch this guy's fights and compare them to today's fights and you'll see why people think boxing is dead.


I watched the Pacman/Horn fight last night...complete garbage. Two judges had the bout 117-111 in favor of Horn...WTF?!?!? Boxing had a chance last night with Pac on a FREE fight and blew it. Turned me off forever, not that I was excited about boxing to begin with.

And I think its obvious FM would win a boxing match and CM would win an MMA fight. This whole fight is a joke.
 

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