Active shooter on Las Vegas Strip

[CV355]

I love a good conspiracy theory, but Occam's Razor usually holds true.

Things make a lot more sense when you realize that chaos + poor journalism = a recipe for bad information. Bad information turns into conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories become hunts for confirmation bias.

People died. Same goes for Sandy Hook, 9/11, Boston Bombing. We may never know all the facts, and it's entirely possible that the events were manipulated, but innocent people died nonetheless.

 

[BrunotheBoxer]

^What questions do you need answered?

How did his house get robbed after the shooting while under police surveillance?
And what was taken?

 

[VegasMichael]

^That's a basic no story. Police had already been in the house to search before that. The alleged surveillance was likely a few drive-bys each day. No reason for 24/7 watching. It was a week after the fact.

 

[Brutal Metal]

I love a good conspiracy theory, but Occam's Razor usually holds true.

Things make a lot more sense when you realize that chaos + poor journalism = a recipe for bad information. Bad information turns into conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories become hunts for confirmation bias.

People died. Same goes for Sandy Hook, 9/11, Boston Bombing. We may never know all the facts, and it's entirely possible that the events were manipulated, but innocent people died nonetheless.

If you say so...

 

[CV355]

If you say so...

The thought that our government is so organized that it could pull off so many "false flags" and keep the lid tight is bizarre to me. Our government is the most bloated, disorganized, dysfunctional entity on the planet.

Just because there are a bunch of unintelligent journalists running around spewing bad info to further their careers doesn't mean that everything is a hoax.

 

[Need 04 Wine]

You guys.....


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[black4vcobra]

^What questions do you need answered?

I for one think that there has been very little info released about Paddock himself. Where did he get his money? From gambling or inheritance or prior employment?

What did he do in the days leading up to the shooting. As mentioned by others, why isn't there video of him playing video poker or drinking at the bar or carrying lots of bags up to his room. Did he talk to anyone in those days leading up to the shooting? Certainly the employees at the reception desk or waitresses or bartenders at Mandalay Bay must have spoken with him a bit and if so did he seem "off".

There could be something else in his background that could indicate that he was unstable. I thought I heard he was on some mood altering medication but did he ever express anti-American sentiments or did he ever beat his ex-wife or was he ever known to do any drugs that could have led to any sort of brain damage.

Just overall it seems like we are being spoonfed info and conclusions when the authorities have to know more than they are telling.

 

[capnkirk52]

The thought that our government is so organized that it could pull off so many "false flags" and keep the lid tight is bizarre to me. Our government is the most bloated, disorganized, dysfunctional entity on the planet.

There are people that are more powerful than our idiot politicians that probably orchestrated this. I don't know them though.

 

[CV355]

There are people that are more powerful than our idiot politicians that probably orchestrated this. I don't know them though.

You're right- there are way more powerful people. They are busy being incestuous and funding the Clintons. Smaller schemes can go undetected because what's one more kill on the Clinton death-list? But larger conspiracies usually require more mouths to keep shut.

Plenty of subversive tactics have been outed- they usually point back to sunken-eyed, heavily-joweled billionaires with nothing better to do than pay SJWs to troll discussion and image boards...

I'm not saying there aren't conspiracies- not one bit. I'm saying that the "whole thing is a hoax" conspiracy theories are usually 100% BS, maybe purported as a means to discredit conspiracies in the first place. Hmmm. Whoaaaa man.

 

[VegasMichael]

I for one think that there has been very little info released about Paddock himself. Where did he get his money? From gambling or inheritance or prior employment?

What did he do in the days leading up to the shooting. As mentioned by others, why isn't there video of him playing video poker or drinking at the bar or carrying lots of bags up to his room. Did he talk to anyone in those days leading up to the shooting? Certainly the employees at the reception desk or waitresses or bartenders at Mandalay Bay must have spoken with him a bit and if so did he seem "off".

There could be something else in his background that could indicate that he was unstable. I thought I heard he was on some mood altering medication but did he ever express anti-American sentiments or did he ever beat his ex-wife or was he ever known to do any drugs that could have led to any sort of brain damage.

Just overall it seems like we are being spoonfed info and conclusions when the authorities have to know more than they are telling.

Where he got his money has been revealed. He was a successful investor via real estate.and made/lost money gambling and had been employed in the past. The day of the shooting he was playing poker but video hasn't been released. Not sure if there is video of him bringing in suitcases which could have happened over the course of a few days. He was actually given the privilege of using a separate elevator from other guests. Just because they haven't released video doesn't mean there isn't any. It might actually be pretty crappy which may encourage crime if shown. It has been released that he was on mental illness medication. He was not known to be very friendly/talkative with anyone, basically a loner. No one knows for sure(nor will they ever), what set him off.

 

[black4vcobra]

Where he got his money has been revealed. He was a successful investor via real estate.and made/lost money gambling and had been employed in the past. The day of the shooting he was playing poker but video hasn't been released. Not sure if there is video of him bringing in suitcases which could have happened over the course of a few days. He was actually given the privilege of using a separate elevator from other guests. Just because they haven't released video doesn't mean there isn't any. It might actually be pretty crappy which may encourage crime if shown. It has been released that he was on mental illness medication. He was not known to be very friendly/talkative with anyone, basically a loner. No one knows for sure(nor will they ever), what set him off.

This all may very well be accurate but there are still (many) specific details that haven't been released to the public - real estate records, tax returns, bank records, employment records, gun/ammo purchase history, google search history, Amazon purchase history, transcripts of the interviews with the GF any other people in contact with him besides his brother, GF and mother, etc. Obviously it is an ongoing investigation and maybe things like these will never be released but in addition to the surveillance video, i hope they will be.

 

[VegasMichael]

This all may very well be accurate but there are still (many) specific details that haven't been released to the public - real estate records, tax returns, bank records, employment records, gun/ammo purchase history, google search history, Amazon purchase history, transcripts of the interviews with the GF any other people in contact with him besides his brother, GF and mother, etc. Obviously it is an ongoing investigation and maybe things like these will never be released but in addition to the surveillance video, i hope they will be.

Info from 2015 shooter's tax return was released several weeks ago, as was his job history, he wiped clean a lot of his internet actions, purchased ammo over the internet, bought over 30 guns the past year. There is still sealed evidence due to ongoing criminal charges against unnamed entities.

 

[black4vcobra]

Info from 2015 shooter's tax return was released several weeks ago, as was his job history, he wiped clean a lot of his internet actions, purchased ammo over the internet, bought over 30 guns the past year. There is still sealed evidence due to ongoing criminal charges against unnamed entities.

Here is an update, I wonder if there could be any charges pending on anyone besides the GF. Hopefully the report doesn't take until October 1st, 2018.

www.newsweek.com/stephen-paddock-charges-las-vegas-shooting-783513

 

[Gravik]

2nd person of interest..

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/30/us/las-vegas-attack-paddock-shooting.html

 

[Gravik]

Guy who sold ammo to Vegas shooter is being charged with selling armor piercing rounds

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-who-sold-ammo-to-vegas-shooter-is-charged/ar-BBICMHt

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[Revvv]

Guy who sold ammo to Vegas shooter is being charged with selling armor piercing rounds

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-who-sold-ammo-to-vegas-shooter-is-charged/ar-BBICMHt

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Any full metal jacket is armor piercing in the right rifle. A good attorney should be able to shut that down.

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[VegasMichael]

This is a closed case.

 

[Jefe]

Almost 6 months later and we now have videos of him bringing numerous bags into MGM

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock.html

 

[HEMIHUNTER]

What a coincidence the NYT publishes this a few days before the big anti gun protest.

 

[98 svt]

Almost 6 months later and we now have videos of him bringing numerous bags into MGM

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/us/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock.html

Any ideas of what could be in the bags he keeps leaving with?