Stock Redeye with Just DR’s ran 10.22@134 last night. (Not a press event with Evan Smith).

[GotHemi?]

I mean. If I were to take a new GT500 to the dragstrip, I'd run DRs...and run the same time as you did. Then I would pop off those wheels and put on some Pirelli scrubs and lap you on a road course. Then I would pop those off, put on some of the stock Michelin's and drag you up and down on your local highway doing 60 rolls. Then I would go home and have a beer, post about it on SVTP and all you will have to say is, "well I gave $58k for mine"....and my reply will be, "should've spent the extra $30k".

Matching the time is pure speculation at this point.

Lapping him is extreme exaggeration. Even if the GT500 were 10 seconds quicker around a road course, which is unlikely, it would take a lot of laps just to lap the redeye once.

If a redeye owner is running DR at the drag strip I highly doubt they’ll take them off for roll races on the highway. Wont be any dragging unless the driver is flat out incompetent. It will sure be great races though.

After all the years of engineering Ford used on this new GT500, all that hyperbole you just spilled should actually be accurate, sadly that just isnt the case. Lol


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[PIPO]

That’s moving! But it was done at Atco so...aren’t all hero runs done there? A stock tire C7ZO6 went 10.4@134 at Atco, while I’m in Kansas running high tens (street tires), at a lower MPH (133) and with 100HP more than a stocker.

I still think the GT500 will be the faster car at the same track.

 

[IA Shelby]

ZL1 1LE and the 2020 GT500 are much more comparable cars than a Redeye and GT500. The ZL1 can be purchased for much less than a GT500 as well.

 

[My94GT]

What a time to be alive where we have viable options from all the big three.

personally I’m sure the GT500 will be the most well rounded of the bunch. I really hope it pushes dodge to do something about that if they don’t already have it in the works. I’d love a Redeye that is road course oriented

 

[03Sssnake]

I see regular used hellcats listed for 50-54 in your area, how in the hell did you get a brand new redeye for 58otd??? That can't possibly be close to normal.

The deals are actually there for SRT/Hellcat vehicles...My buddy chris got 14K off earlier this year on a Cherokee SRT in the houston area. They were trying to talk him into a track hawk with nearly 20K in incentives, but he was already at his pain threshold on costs.

 

[13COBRA]

Matching the time is pure speculation at this point.

Lapping him is extreme exaggeration. Even if the GT500 were 10 seconds quicker around a road course, which is unlikely, it would take a lot of laps just to lap the redeye once.

If a redeye owner is running DR at the drag strip I highly doubt they’ll take them off for roll races on the highway. Wont be any dragging unless the driver is flat out incompetent. It will sure be great races though.

After all the years of engineering Ford used on this new GT500, all that hyperbole you just spilled should actually be accurate, sadly that just isnt the case. Lol


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Definitely not speculation. It'll happen.

As far as lapping goes, you just said it would? I never said I'd do it on lap 2?

The GT500 will flat out whoop the Redeye, I promise.

 

[ON D BIT]

$58k OTD is about $53k for car. I see nothing for that price even close. Multiple $66k on the $80k msrp. Unless you don’t have tax.

At $66k that’s $72k otd as you say.

As for your post, we already saw modified HC running same times as the GT500 in Vegas now you prove to us again the modified HC will run even with the GT500. Enjoy your car, it’s a sweet ride!

 

[My94GT]

Definitely not speculation. It'll happen.

As far as lapping goes, you just said it would? I never said I'd do it on lap 2?

The GT500 will flat out whoop the Redeye, I promise.

but will it in the hands of an average person? Likely not as bad as one would think.

for example I ran 1:38s at NJMP on my R6, I regularly was putting distance on guys with liter bikes. Pro pace for the bikes I was putting distance on is low 1:20s there.

in the hands of the average person, the playing field is far more level. Obviously the GT500 is the better car but the OPmakes a solid point that for what most people are comparing right now at the drag strip and from a roll it may actually be closer then expected. Also he did indicate it will be a lot of fun for all parties so I wouldn’t take it as jabs at the GT500

 

[13COBRA]

but will it in the hands of an average person? Likely not as bad as one would think.

for example I ran 1:38s at NJMP on my R6, I regularly was putting distance on guys with liter bikes. Pro pace for the bikes I was putting distance on is low 1:20s there.

in the hands of the average person, the playing field is far more level. Obviously the GT500 is the better car but the OPmakes a solid point that for what most people are comparing right now at the drag strip and from a roll it may actually be closer then expected. Also he did indicate it will be a lot of fun for all parties so I wouldn’t take it as jabs at the GT500

Then if that's the basis we're talking about, why not by a 30 year old Fox body and spend $15k on it and make it run 9s?

 

[93 347 Cobra]

I was showing DA -400ish. Bi dont put alot of stock in DA....

Yes, because DA has no impact on power production or ETs...

 

[TERMN8U]

What kind of an improvement to expect to see with a GT500 on drag radials?

 

[blk02edge]

The deals are actually there for SRT/Hellcat vehicles...My buddy chris got 14K off earlier this year on a Cherokee SRT in the houston area. They were trying to talk him into a track hawk with nearly 20K in incentives, but he was already at his pain threshold on costs.

OTD though? You'd shit if you saw what dealers were asking here lol

 

[93 347 Cobra]

What kind of an improvement to expect to see with a GT500 on drag radials?

Evan ran 1.75 60-foots and 6.9x in the 1/8 on the stock tires. OP ran 1.4x 60-foot and 6.5x 1/8th. So most of the difference is in the first half of the track. I think a GT500 is a bottom 10 car at 135-136 in those conditions.

To add more analysis to this OP covered the 2nd 1/8th in 3.7 seconds and picked up 28 mph for his 134 trap run at 10pm when the DA was -1400+. In the hero run from Evan the GT500 also covered the 2nd 1/8 in 3.7 seconds but picked about 30 mph in DA conditions that were +900 above sea level.

In those conditions at Atco last night we can extrapolate the GT500 would likely be running 10.0s at somewhere north of 136.

 

[93 347 Cobra]

OP BS'd the DA. Atco was -1100+ in the 45-degree air he was running in last night.

 

[BlckBox04]

Got a track rental at Atco 11/15 if you're interested in bringing something

 

[Purvis]

That’s moving! But it was done at Atco so...aren’t all hero runs done there? A stock tire C7ZO6 went 10.4@134 at Atco, while I’m in Kansas running high tens (street tires), at a lower MPH (133) and with 100HP more than a stocker.

I still think the GT500 will be the faster car at the same track.

Its going to be close but, personally, i think the Redeye has the edge by a tenth or 2. I would have to tally them up, but most GT500 runs i saw were non ideal. Most were Mid to low 11’s and some hi tens. For instance, american muscle, who turned an awesome 11.9 time with their 2018 mustang Gt5.0, made several passes and they could only go a best of 11.1. so point being, you guys will have to dial these in, and they will need a DR at a standard Test and tune night, or you will all be spinning.

Atco is not my fastest track. its just the only place i have taken the RE so far. In truly super negative DA weather and good track prep, and a faster track, times will improve. Plus, Im going to get serious about losing 20 pounds and go in with 50-60 pounds less of fuel. With about a combined 60-80 less pounds on board times will improve. I learn something more everytime i go. Even though there are ALOT less variables these days compared to a stick car, there are still A considerable amount of things to get ”just right”.

 

[My94GT]

Then if that's the basis we're talking about, why not by a 30 year old Fox body and spend $15k on it and make it run 9s?

What bias? I assume you mean where the average person would likely not see much benefit either way and if they are fiscally conscious they could get performance better suited to them and their wallet with a red eye?

the reason you wouldn’t go old Fox body is because we’re just comparing new cars that are market competitors.

 

[tt335ci03cobra]

Evan ran 1.75 60-foots and 6.9x in the 1/8 on the stock tires. OP ran 1.4x 60-foot and 6.5x 1/8th. So most of the difference is in the first half of the track. I think a GT500 is a bottom 10 car at 135-136 in those conditions.

To add more analysis to this OP covered the 2nd 1/8th in 3.7 seconds and picked up 28 mph for his 134 trap run at 10pm when the DA was -1400+. In the hero run from Evan the GT500 also covered the 2nd 1/8 in 3.7 seconds but picked about 30 mph in DA conditions that were +900 above sea level.

In those conditions at Atco last night we can extrapolate the GT500 would likely be running 10.0s at somewhere north of 136.

Picking up 30 mph in 3.7 seconds after the 1/8th is pretty impressive.

Ya I think we’ll see hero runs where the pump gas gt500 on street tires is accelerating even with a demon on 100 octane mix, albeit the demon will be a ways ahead because of the 1.4x 60ft’s. Best I think the gt500 has in it on the mp4s’s is 1.75 60ft, maybe 1.70.

Put a slick or drag radial on a gt500 in -1100 da and it’ll be possible to run 9’s.

 

[13COBRA]

What bias? I assume you mean where the average person would likely not see much benefit either way and if they are fiscally conscious they could get performance better suited to them and their wallet with a red eye?

the reason you wouldn’t go old Fox body is because we’re just comparing new cars that are market competitors.

Sure!

BUT, the GT500 will outperform the Redeye..same driver, same conditions, same track...

 

[My94GT]

Sure!

BUT, the GT500 will outperform the Redeye..same driver, same conditions, same track...

Fair point. It’ll also come at a much higher price point. Now if budget allows and someone is looking for even random track time the GT500 is the way to go, heck even GT350R.