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All the SVT previews of the Godzilla showed that the internals are stout, especially the block. Crank should be G2G, but a genuine set of forged rods and pistons should be installed if you're really serious on making a salt miner.
 

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Like most factory motors it will need better Rods and Pistons to make any real power. Crank seems stout and valve-train seems good tho as it has beehive springs but IDN what the spring rate actually is tho.
"Real Power" is an arbitrary term. 600? 700? 800? 1000?
 

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Ok let's put peak numbers aside, a 7.3L should be able to make 600hp at the crank very reliably.....no?
Yes, personally i think because it's a new motor they have it detuned on purpose to leave room to up the power later when the competition starts to catch up. Kinda like why lay all your cards on the table.
 

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All the SVT previews of the Godzilla showed that the internals are stout, especially the block. Crank should be G2G, but a genuine set of forged rods and pistons should be installed if you're really serious on making a salt miner.

I agree, but at 600hp no need to change either of those. 700+ thats when you may want to upgrade those.
 

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Yes, personally i think because it's a new motor they have it detuned on purpose to leave room to up the power later when the competition starts to catch up. Kinda like why lay all your cards on the table.

Makes sense , I guess I just expected more because the 2014 6.2L raptor was what 412hp and 434tq that was a guess I honestly don't remember ) so now new generation later I figured the 7.3L would at bare minimum be at 500hp.

It's a good motor don't get me wrong I probably just put it in a category that it is not which is a performance motor when in actuality it is a work motor ( if that makes sense )
 

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So you think it should make more power than the 8.4 v10 from the 5th gen Viper? Oh thats right its not the tt 3.5 so its crap, with laughable power....

Not gonna let u bait me into proving your stupidity like in the last thread. Keep it moving
 

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Yes, personally i think because it's a new motor they have it detuned on purpose to leave room to up the power later when the competition starts to catch up. Kinda like why lay all your cards on the table.

There isn't really any gamesmanship/sandbagging anymore these days. All of the other OEM's can likely model/predict within 1% the capability of this, or any other engine is in mainstream production. Timing is the real variable and where the games are played.
 

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Makes sense , I guess I just expected more because the 2014 6.2L raptor was what 412hp and 434tq that was a guess I honestly don't remember ) so now new generation later I figured the 7.3L would at bare minimum be at 500hp.

It's a good motor don't get me wrong I probably just put it in a category that it is not which is a performance motor when in actuality it is a work motor ( if that makes sense )
Dodge lowers the 6.4 to 410hp 429tq in the power wagon down from 485hp and 475tq. It matters much more where and when the power appears in trucks rather than just how much. Seeing how the 7.3 in its starter truck form is at 430hp and 475tq I don't see the issue. Of course if this 7.3 was in the new Mach 1 I would expect over 520hp.

Not gonna let u bait me into proving your stupidity like in the last thread. Keep it moving
My stupidity for pointing out more than a few are selling their gen2 raptors for the tremor? I was just passing out information anyone could look up for themselves.
Last 2 days: 18 and 19 gen 2's sold for Tremors.
Traded my 2018 Raptor and drove 18 hours to pick this up. It had everything I wanted except the 5th wheel prep and the rapid supplemental cab heater. I've been a member of the Raptor club for a long time so its bitter-sweet. That being said, I had a 2018 Raptor. I was never happy with the ride quality on or off-road. It just didn't ride as nice as the 2014 I traded for it. It seems I'm in good company converting from a Raptor. I see a few of the FRF guys here too!
Wait, did not like as much as his 14? Interesting....
 

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Makes sense , I guess I just expected more because the 2014 6.2L raptor was what 412hp and 434tq that was a guess I honestly don't remember ) so now new generation later I figured the 7.3L would at bare minimum be at 500hp.

It's a good motor don't get me wrong I probably just put it in a category that it is not which is a performance motor when in actuality it is a work motor ( if that makes sense )

I really dont know why else they would have reduced the power. When testing i was reading it was making 475-500hp along with 525-550tq. I dought at that power level with all the tough components they put into it was unreliable at all.
 

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There isn't really any gamesmanship/sandbagging anymore these days. All of the other OEM's can likely model/predict within 1% the capability of this, or any other engine is in mainstream production. Timing is the real variable and where the games are played.

Being that size of displacement why else would ford only claim to make 430hp and 475tq?

You seem to have some inside information from time to time. So what would your take on it be? Considering ford was testing it with a good amount more hp/tq.
 

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I really dont know why else they would have reduced the power. When testing i was reading it was making 475-500hp along with 525-550tq. I dought at that power level with all the tough components they put into it was unreliable at all.
there is also a 300 hp/ 425 tq tune for the 2021 E series van. Identical motor
 

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there is also a 300 hp/ 425 tq tune for the 2021 E series van. Identical motor
Interesting, why lower it so much. The tq isnt bad but 130hp drop. You would think with how some of these vans are loaded to the max rating they would want as much hp/tq as possible and reliable.
 

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Being that size of displacement why else would ford only claim to make 430hp and 475tq?

You seem to have some inside information from time to time. So what would your take on it be? Considering ford was testing it with a good amount more hp/tq.

No inside info. Another way of saying it......everyone pretty much knows what each other is doing. You can play some games, mostly around timing, but they all do their homework, and can guess pretty darn closely what each other has up their sleeve.

There has been so much predictive modeling and simulations done on the ICE, that unless you introduce some star trek technology, you can easily compute things like hp and tq. And once they get their hands on an actual example, they fill in the rest of the blanks and know for certain the secret sauce. That's all I was getting at.

Ford designed this particular engine with an expected lifespan, and surely has a well defined improvement/upgrade cadence already planned out for it, including competitive response contingencies.
 
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Interesting, why lower it so much. The tq isnt bad but 130hp drop. You would think with how some of these vans are loaded to the max rating they would want as much hp/tq as possible and reliable.
This tune was designed for those that know they will not need the engine for maximum weight capacity. In particular in City deliveries of parcels
 

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