What was your point with posting the MSRP?
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What was your point with posting the MSRP?
Because real world, if you want a Raptor and you buy off a dealer lot you arent getting under 70K. Period. And thats assuming you buy from a dealer thats not adding ADMs to it.
Additionally, if you are going base to base, its a 13K difference not 20k for crew cabs. Of course, you're getting a standard sync 3 in the Raptor, where as in the TRX youre getting the 12" full tower display as standard. As well as a full floating Dana 60 rear end etc.
But honestly, I get why you're defending the Raptor so hard. You just bought a 2020. Full disclosure, I think the Raptor suspension and chassis is excellent out of the box. But TRX is about to prove how successful a Raptor style truck with a monster V8 in it will sell.
Its behind both the 6.7 Diesel and the 7.3L Gasser. Its internal structure is well capable for the output a boosted 5.2 could produce to combat the TRX.
I don’t think ford has the balls to put the gt500 engine in the raptor, maybe if we’re luck we’ll get the 7.3 but that’s still doubtful imo.
Come on brotha, that’s weak sauce making that claim. Prefacing it as a rumor nor not, it reeks of desperation to try and discredit. Also, I would be massively disappointed if Ram didn’t break a lot of stuff over the course of development. That’s how you find issues and correct them.
It’s ok to be proud of your new raptor, it’s a great truck. It’s also perfectly ok to not to like the TRX. There’s no need to interject hyperbole into the discussion.
I replied to somebody asking about if the were vids of the TRX jumping so I responded and I even said it is a rumor and I was waiting for a more creditable source.....I am aassuming you read my entire post were I stated the things I liked about the TRX and that I would buy one if I didn't already own a raptor. Go back and actually read my post.
Lol....i guess I am the only one that doesn't equate his manhood to what he drives. It doesn't, I am debating the difference is I see in two vehicles and brands I do the same thing with GTRs vipers GT3 and vettes but I do not own any of those.
Now to your point of MSRP, the 70k for the Raptor that you're talking about it's one that's pretty much optioned out. If you did the same thing with the TRX we are about 20K higher. It is already been posted what the starting MSRP is of the Raptor and the starting MSRP is of the TRX it's not even a debate.
Edit....my bad, not quite 20k
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The frame looks to be really strong. Truck weighs 6500lbs. Too much back and forth bickering. Can’t we enjoy all our options without the non sense.
7.3 would be the natural choice.
600 HP with basic mods: Ford's 7.3-Liter V-8 Tunes to 600 Horsepower With Basic Mods
700 HP with a Whipple at 6-8 PSI: https://svtperformance.com/threads/...ger-for-the-7-3l-godzilla-v8-is-here.1184542/
"Six-bolt mains, an iron block and a forged crank all contribute to stout reliability for truck duty—and they happen to be great news for drag racers. Brian says the 446-cubic-inch engine can probably be bored out to 480 cubes"
Too many people here don't give the new 7.3L credit. It's far from just a work engine
600 HP with basic mods: Ford's 7.3-Liter V-8 Tunes to 600 Horsepower With Basic Mods
700 HP with a Whipple at 6-8 PSI: https://svtperformance.com/threads/...ger-for-the-7-3l-godzilla-v8-is-here.1184542/
"Six-bolt mains, an iron block and a forged crank all contribute to stout reliability for truck duty—and they happen to be great news for drag racers. Brian says the 446-cubic-inch engine can probably be bored out to 480 cubes"
Too many people here don't give the new 7.3L credit. It's far from just a work engine
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I'm not singling you out but Ford would never in a million years put a 7.3 in a half ton Raptor. Why would they? They'd have to get a new engine certified and it would be included in their CAFE standards. And what would it get , 9 mpg's? Then to tune it to 600 hp (Still a 100 short of the TRX btw) It would get like 7 mpg's.
You're gonna get Powerboost and you're gonna like it. You get what you get and you don't get upset.
Just FYI I think the 7.3 is great in the SD.
Mine stickered out at 75k and I got it OTD for 70. Its easily the best truck I've had so far. I've had Rams, Titans, several F150-s, 350s etc. The TRX is a bad ass but she's a pig. I see Ford upping the output on the Gen 3 to 500-525HP and calling it a day along with the new suspension. I think they're really invested in the Ecoboost platforms and our hopes and dreams of another V8 version are gonna be busted
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7.3 would be the natural choice.
600 HP with basic mods: Ford's 7.3-Liter V-8 Tunes to 600 Horsepower With Basic Mods
700 HP with a Whipple at 6-8 PSI: https://svtperformance.com/threads/...ger-for-the-7-3l-godzilla-v8-is-here.1184542/
"Six-bolt mains, an iron block and a forged crank all contribute to stout reliability for truck duty—and they happen to be great news for drag racers. Brian says the 446-cubic-inch engine can probably be bored out to 480 cubes"
Too many people here don't give the new 7.3L credit. It's far from just a work engine
It's a shame cause it does seem to be a good mod friendly engine. But if it just stays in the Duty lineup the aftermarket will never take off on it.
I would love to see one in the new Mustang, with an aluminum block.
No, the problem is the 7.3 is only in the Super Dookie and just came out.7.3 would be the natural choice.
600 HP with basic mods: Ford's 7.3-Liter V-8 Tunes to 600 Horsepower With Basic Mods
700 HP with a Whipple at 6-8 PSI: https://svtperformance.com/threads/...ger-for-the-7-3l-godzilla-v8-is-here.1184542/
"Six-bolt mains, an iron block and a forged crank all contribute to stout reliability for truck duty—and they happen to be great news for drag racers. Brian says the 446-cubic-inch engine can probably be bored out to 480 cubes"
Too many people here don't give the new 7.3L credit. It's far from just a work engine
It's popularity, may take off once junk yards are full of them.
Just like the 6.2, I don't see Ford putting it in a F150 nor Mustang.
Taking in the effort and some time you can build a better truck from ford than the raptor for maybe a little less. Buy an f150 with the coyote, add a whipple/frpp blower, visit H&M Motorsports and have them throw on suspension(bypass, coilovers and bumps, add glass fenders with paint.
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Why would Whipple invest in the 7.3L unless they saw a market? And Ford just released the 7.3L crate engine, so they also must see a market.
Possibly, or you can scavenge stock Gen 2 parts such as LCA/Uppers/shocks to start out on and save on some costs suspension wise. Not sure if the computer on the 5.0's can integrate seamlessly with the fox live shocks.
The big difference to most would be depreciation.
Even if the price is the same, the resell won't be, and from what I can tell from forums is a lot value that resale value.
Even if that 5.0 was a better truck, you'll eat a lot if you needed to sell it.
Man, imagine spending 75k on a 3 liter truck and the same year a 6.2L that makes almost double the power comes out for the same price lol. Same thing going to happen with the Bronco lite with the 2Ls.
7.3 will eventually be the next LS swap fad IMO. Its weight penalty is offset by the sheer power potential in the block with upgraded pistons and rods at the factory displacement.
Ford would absolutely battle the TRX with a port AND direct injection version of the 7.3L NA with hi comp pistons. Stock in the SD, it makes 450hp and 475 torque. With direct injection and more compression, they could easily get over 500, maybe more. Direct injection is a game changer when implemented correctly (with port fuel for valve and runner cleanliness and cold start fueling). If Ford did this it would be game over in my opinion.
I'd be happy with a 5.0 gen 3 or 5.2 Cpc. Even 2 small snails on the damn thing would make it instantly a monster like the TRX.
Now that Hack Job is gone, maybe Farley will find Ford's performance balls again. IDGAF at this point if Farley is TwoFace incarnate, terrorizer of Ford underlings. Compete with FCA making solid cars and trucks people are asking for and I'll have no issue with his time as CEO.
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