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Local Ford dealer has a used Tesla model 3 long range listed for 2k less than you can buy a new one for. Taking EV's on trade isn't for the faint of heart.
 

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Chart could have been from 1994 or 2004.

Funny how little changes.

I'm curious on the Dodge / Chrysler gap. Basically the same vehicles.
Chart says its from 2024 and I believe it. Kia has come a long way and Ford has had ton issues in their Chicago plant most notably the Explorer.


Still, pretty hilarious seeing Kia, BMW, Mercedes ranked higher vs the other big 2. BMW struck gold with the newer BXX/SXX engines. Can make more power, much better MPG and way more reliable vs Ecoboost engines. They dont have to deal with the dreadful infamous Ecoboost ticking sound from the bad cam phasers
 

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Chart says its from 2024 and I believe it. Kia has come a long way and Ford has had ton issues in their Chicago plant most notably the Explorer.


Still, pretty hilarious seeing Kia, BMW, Mercedes ranked higher vs the other big 2. BMW struck gold with the newer BXX/SXX engines. Can make more power, much better MPG and way more reliable vs Ecoboost engines. They dont have to deal with the dreadful infamous Ecoboost ticking sound from the bad cam phasers


My point was Toyota/Lexus have been the top for over 40 years. Ford has been low for 40 years. Volkswagen and Chrysler hot garbage for 40 years.

I've never considered Ford a reliable brand.

Mod motors had leaky intakes, cracked manifolds sticky throttles, shit water pumps. The 5.4 was a rats nest and the spark plug issues. Taurus would have fuel pump and oil leaks.

I'm surprised Honda/Acura are so low but I bet it's the new crop of Turbo Engines causing issues.

Hyundai has always been mid pack. Hyundai/Kia basically did what Volkswagen should have done in the American market.
 

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My point was Toyota/Lexus have been the top for over 40 years. Ford has been low for 40 years. Volkswagen and Chrysler hot garbage for 40 years.

I've never considered Ford a reliable brand.

Mod motors had leaky intakes, cracked manifolds sticky throttles, shit water pumps. The 5.4 was a rats nest and the spark plug issues. Taurus would have fuel pump and oil leaks.

I'm surprised Honda/Acura are so low but I bet it's the new crop of Turbo Engines causing issues.

Hyundai has always been mid pack. Hyundai/Kia basically did what Volkswagen should have done in the American market.

How Hyundai ranks middle is a mystery. The Hyundai mechanics youtube video with a pile of blown engines behind them aren't hard to find and if you see a car blowing smoke on the street, it is usually a Hyundai.
 

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How Hyundai ranks middle is a mystery. The Hyundai mechanics youtube video with a pile of blown engines behind them aren't hard to find and if you see a car blowing smoke on the street, it is usually a Hyundai.

This rating focuses on the type and number of problems owners experienced during the preceding 12 months with their 3-year-old vehicle.
 

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How Hyundai ranks middle is a mystery. The Hyundai mechanics youtube video with a pile of blown engines behind them aren't hard to find and if you see a car blowing smoke on the street, it is usually a Hyundai.
I've owned ALOT of brands over the years. From my personal experience, a Nissan rogue and a civic si has gone the most miles (100k+) with zero issues. The worst was a Jetta and ecoboost f150.

Currently I have a 2017 titan that just needed a starter and a 2019 Camry that needed an a/c compressor.

Seems like vehicles made around 2010ish were most reliable.

Of all things I had a 97 eclipse gst that was heavily modded and beat on everyday like it owed me money and I put 100k problem free miles on that thing.
 

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I've owned ALOT of brands over the years. From my personal experience, a Nissan rogue and a civic si has gone the most miles (100k+) with zero issues. The worst was a Jetta and ecoboost f150.

Currently I have a 2017 titan that just needed a starter and a 2019 Camry that needed an a/c compressor.

Seems like vehicles made around 2010ish were most reliable.

Of all things I had a 97 eclipse gst that was heavily modded and beat on everyday like it owed me money and I put 100k problem free miles on that thing.
I've never seen anything tougher than a later model XJ Cherokee.
 

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This rating focuses on the type and number of problems owners experienced during the preceding 12 months with their 3-year-old vehicle.

I was under the impression that most of these surveys take ANY service/repair issue over X amount of time, and simply rate reliability from there.

Edit: obviously only new cars

If a vehicle goes in for a blown motor it would receive the same single “mark” as a glitchy display or headlight that failed prematurely.

Or is that all bullshit?
 

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