If the GT500 is $85,000 are you in or out?

mitchster said:

85K isn't that the price for a new GT350R out the door? So which is a better deal a GT350R or a GT500?

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Out the door pricing can often include taxes, title and licensing which can vary from state to state.

In my area in Colorado, a GT350R with the electronics package would be $68,735 + $5567 in tax + $599 dealer fee and probably around $500 for registration.

Much closer to $75k.

Of course if I lived 20 miles further east, bought the car from Nick, it would be around $4k less.

FWIW, these cars can be had for MSRP, there are guys who have bought them under MSRP.

Out!
At that price it pretty much betrays it's heritage. So why reward that bs!
Side note. Have you been to your local dealer lately. Hardly the hot rod shop I bought my car from. Looks more like some millennial Apple experiment.

I have not seen a GT350R under 75K list price in any dealership near me.

Shaker1 said:

Reading this thread, it appears very few people posting here have any plans to buy at $85K. Let alone the actual out-the-door price. Whatever ford releases, I fear that GM is sandbagging the ZL1 and waiting to one-up Ford right after they announce specs. Without even raising the price of the current model. Yeah I know, "it has poor visibilty" and "it is ugly". But performance is what matters to most rational people.

The new GT500 will be an awesome car and likely be $100K+ out-the-door (fully equipped).

What astounds me is that this thread is full of personal attacks and homophobic remarks, etc and it is the OP who got banned. Just ****ing sad. The moderation here is pitiful. Ban me too, I give a ****. Or just make a bunch of hollow threats, whatever.

I am not planning on spending that kind of money on a Ford either. Used to be they treated SVT owners special, now it is just another car.

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That's cute. Have you actually seen the crap OP has has posted time and time again? If so, well...if not STFU.

I bought my 14 in the summer of 13. The dealer I went to sold to me under sticker at $62,500. I thought that was a ton of money but the power of the car was awesome with that blower and I really like the glass roof option, which you can't get on a S550.

I just can't see $85K plus dealer markup. I can do a lot of things with that money. Car related and other investments.

Tom

03cobra#694 said:

That's cute. Have you actually seen the crap OP has has posted time and time again? If so, well...if not STFU.

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I think you guys do a fair job moderating. I’ve got plenty of bans under my belt, all were justified even in my decidedly biased opinion.

#stopKaneda!
#KanedNO!

Bottom line is if the manufacturers would put more teeth into their sales and service agreements with dealers that would solve a whole lot of problems. Kudos to Dodge for trying with the Demon. But still their weak threat had no affect. ADM's cause destruction of cool products and nothing but short term profits for dealers. Classic can't see the forest through the trees syndrome. This is why the Viper is bye bye. This is why Ford didn't come close to selling as many GT350's let alone R's that they planned because the dealer's f'd it up for them. Same reason Z06 and current ZR1 will be a huge loss because of the same shenanigans. Go on Autotrader and find current ZR1's for 150+++ when it is a 130KMSRP car., Joke. Zora is going to be their saviour? Yeah right. Chevy just eliminated nearly every current and future corvette buyer with this BS. Not too mention what the dealers's will add to the Zora when it arrives. Just like many posters, I am happy with my 13 that I got at MSRP. I refused to pay over sticker back in 13 and will never pay over sticker for any car period....!!!!! Manufacturers could control this if they want to, but they choose to stick their heads in the sand and yet wonder why their great products don't meet sales objectives. Extremely short sighted and ignorant. But I don't see it changing anytime soon, but unfortunately only getting worse because of absolute greed on the dealers side the majority of the time. I am sure there will be some that will throw daggers at me about this post, but the truth is the truth. Sell more at MSRP, put units in operation, make clients happy and at least at the end of the day save cool cars. Because 30K plus ADM's destroy cool cars. Look at the numbers, they don't lie.

With Ford getting out of the Domestic car business, I wonder how many Chinese Fords a dealer will have to choke down in order to qualify for a GT500?

ON D BIT said:

If it’s not a damn demon I’m in!!!

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I wouldn't mind a Demon, or a Redeye Hellcat.

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Shaker1 said:

Reading this thread, it appears very few people posting here have any plans to buy at $85K. Let alone the actual out-the-door price. Whatever ford releases, I fear that GM is sandbagging the ZL1 and waiting to one-up Ford right after they announce specs. Without even raising the price of the current model. Yeah I know, "it has poor visibilty" and "it is ugly". But performance is what matters to most rational people.

The new GT500 will be an awesome car and likely be $100K+ out-the-door (fully equipped).

What astounds me is that this thread is full of personal attacks and homophobic remarks, etc and it is the OP who got banned. Just ****ing sad. The moderation here is pitiful. Ban me too, I give a ****. Or just make a bunch of hollow threats, whatever.

I am not planning on spending that kind of money on a Ford either. Used to be they treated SVT owners special, now it is just another car.

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I cannot see me spending $85K on a Mustang unless I had money to burn that I wouldn't miss. I am a Mustang fan. I love the cars and their heritage, but I cannot personally see spending that much on a new GT500 unless it is a collectable car that is unique to itself. It would need to be a car that would appreciate in value.

Does anyone know what the price adjustment for a Shelby in the mid 1960s would be for today's rate of inflation?

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Revvv said:

I cannot see me spending $85K on a Mustang unless I had money to burn that I wouldn't miss. I am a Mustang fan. I love the cars and their heritage, but I cannot personally see spending that much on a new GT500 unless it is a collectable car that is unique to itself. It would need to be a car that would appreciate in value.

Does anyone know what the price adjustment for a Shelby in the mid 1960s would be for today's rate of inflation?

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Well, it's not going to appreciate in value unless the production is capped low. Which it might be at that price point of $85K.

For me, I can justify spending $85k if the straight up performance of a Demon and all the handling tech of the ZL1 is there. Realistically, that's a lot to ask for and expect. I'd be basically asking Ford to achieve the perfect blend and keep it somewhat affordable for the upper middle class guy. I've already got a 700+ HP factory muscle car that really brings a smile to my face. So, it'll take some WOW factor to get my to move on from it. The Redeye is cool and I really like it...better than the Demon...but for just 80 more hp, the $11k jump in price can't be justified. I can spend a few hundos and get that if I wanted.

I bought my M6 Hellcat for 49k with under 5,000 miles on it. I think lightly used Hellcats and GT500s are the best bang for the buck out there. Manufacturers are just getting stupid with prices. I would love to have a Trackhawk, but I just can't justify the expense, so I picked up a loaded Explorer Sport for half the cost of a Trackhawk. I think these 90k plus modern muscle cars will lead to the end of this era. The guys willing to pay that will lean towards European cars and Teslas not Ford, Chevy, or Dodge in my opinion.

More than one Porsche/M owner came over to purchase the GT350. I’m sure the same can be said for HC/ZL but I have not heard of any.
If it’s just a high horsepower car you are correct. If it drives like $150k European model you better believe people will spend that money and buy them all. It’s feels like a bargain to them.

As for prices new car prices are high in general. Base no frills cars are $30, Mustang GT is now close to $50 and trucks are selling resiculous numbers at $60/70/80 grand. That’s crazy!!

Revvv said:

I cannot see me spending $85K on a Mustang unless I had money to burn that I wouldn't miss. I am a Mustang fan. I love the cars and their heritage, but I cannot personally see spending that much on a new GT500 unless it is a collectable car that is unique to itself. It would need to be a car that would appreciate in value.

Does anyone know what the price adjustment for a Shelby in the mid 1960s would be for today's rate of inflation?

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Calculate the value of $4,000 in 1967. How much is it worth today?

1967 I get about $5k then becoming $37,xxx. In 1967 it allegedly would have been an $11,500 car to be $85k today.

In 1969, $5000 would be $34xxx today allegedly, with $12,250 to equal $85k.

Also according to that site, $34000 in 2003 representing an 03 cobra would be $46,333 today.

Here’s the problem, if we put 3% inflation, we end up with $51-$54k as an 18/19 my year from an 03 cobra.

I did a calculation from 1968 to 2018 (50 times of 3% per year) and got that a $5000 gt500 then would be only $22,500 today.

The dollar today is losing 70% if it’s purchasing power every 10 years, and declining faster and faster, it’s almost in free fall. So is the world economy, and this is why we have such undulating calamity the world over. The central planners and fed have oversold every economy on the books, but continue to tie every economy to their out dated algorithms, intentionally so.

Today it’s an $85k gt500, tomorrow it’s a $2m rambler house. Soon enough it’s a $5k iphone.

tt335ci03cobra said:

Calculate the value of $4,000 in 1967. How much is it worth today?

1967 I get about $5k then becoming $37,xxx. In 1967 it allegedly would have been an $11,500 car to be $85k today.

In 1969, $5000 would be $34xxx today allegedly, with $12,250 to equal $85k.

Also according to that site, $34000 in 2003 representing an 03 cobra would be $46,333 today.

Here’s the problem, if we put 3% inflation, we end up with $51-$54k as an 18/19 my year from an 03 cobra.

I did a calculation from 1968 to 2018 (50 times of 3% per year) and got that a $5000 gt500 then would be only $22,500 today.

The dollar today is losing 70% if it’s purchasing power every 10 years, and declining faster and faster, it’s almost in free fall. So is the world economy, and this is why we have such undulating calamity the world over. The central planners and fed have oversold every economy on the books, but continue to tie every economy to their out dated algorithms, intentionally so.

Today it’s an $85k gt500, tomorrow it’s a $2m rambler house. Soon enough it’s a $5k iphone.

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You gave a lot more detail than I would have, but you nailed the point home. The Mustang, including the aftermarket builds, were intended to be economical in regard to price. $85k is too much for the car as I see it right now.

I may be wrong.

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^ I thought I was foolish if not wasteful when I finished up most of my current build 2 years ago. I ended up sinking over 40 into my 03 cobra between engine, turbos, suspension, trans, rear, cosmetic, brakes, etc etc. rims/tires on and on.

So I end up with 3400lbs and 1200whp. Car was $32k new or $23k when I bought it.

When the production car has gotten to where it’s almost double what a full tilt bells and whistles build costs, or the same as a build like that plus an 03 cobra, I agree it’s getting way to expensive.

That all said, I think it will start at $65k and option out at $85k, but with decidedly meaty/ hard to replicate options like a glass roof, drag pack, handling pack, etc.

$65k is still pricey, but for a warranty 750hp car with a great chassis regardless of if it has a handling package or not, it’s imo reasonable.

The 00 cobra r was $55k in 2000 for 385hp and a stripper interior.

Keep in mind, the cobra has come a long way since 1968. 335hp to 750hp, 58/42% distribution to 54/45, etc etc.

The gap from an 03 cobra to a 2019 gt500 is also huge, 390 vs 750hp, 57/43% to 54/45, etc etc.

I'd bet it's no more that 76k fully loaded.

DepWraith said:

I'd bet it's no more that 76k fully loaded.

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Gt350r is $68k loaded, I think it’ll push above 80

DepWraith said:

I'd bet it's no more that 76k fully loaded.

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whew, guys, thank the lord the resident expert has THE SCOOP.

I would rather have Helen Keller on my Fantasy Football team, than to listen to anything you have to say.

Safe to say that's probably the common consensus here....