Football trading cards

Hey so I’ve never really looked into this kinda stuff and I’ve never been into sports really but I was given something recently that I’m having a little trouble with. I’ve tried multiple Facebook groups and my post always gets deleted, but I’m really not sure where to even start with this thing.

It’s a 1958 Jim Brown rookie card, graded through PSA. Everything I look at says this thing is outrageous, except for the fact the image is slightly offset to one side.

Who knows where I should even start here? I’ve tried contacting a few local places but I can’t even get them to respond to phone / email and their hours are weird. Thanks in advance.

- What is it you wanna know?
- Did you scan the code?
- Did you check the cert number?

Never seen a graded card in an open sleeve. Makes no sense. Always slabbed.
PSA number listed doesn't register on site:

I think we used Beckett (sp?) back in the day to have our cards graded. I was mostly into baseball though. Couldn't tell you much about football.

Lambeau said:

- What is it you wanna know?
- Did you scan the code?
- Did you check the cert number?

Never seen a graded card in an open sleeve. Makes no sense. Always slabbed.
PSA number listed doesn't register on site:

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Red ****in flag city.

Fact the card is off-center "professionally" degrades its value. But to the normal guy, who cares?

Card grading, imho, is a scam and way to overall boost prices. I'd never pay an elevated price for a graded card, regardless of who grades it.

That said, the pic of this JB card looks legit. Also keep in mind that over the past few years, card companies have reissued (reprinted) rookie cards, etc.

2012 Reprint:


1957 Original:


Print date will/should be, on the back of the card.


Overall, the card market isn't even a skeleton of what it was years ago.

That’s the kinda stuff I’d like to find out. The PSA label looks legit, though who am I to say and yes I saw the number didn’t come up in their system. Maybe a fake label? The card itself looks great, but do they reproduce fakes like this?

Roots-type said:

I think we used Beckett (sp?) back in the day to have our cards graded. I was mostly into baseball though. Couldn't tell you much about football.

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I’ll have to look into them. I saw someone was getting another card graded and it was going to cost them something like $800 because of the value of the card. So I can only imagine.

Lambeau said:

Fact the card is off-center "professionally" degrades its value. But to the normal guy, who cares?

Card grading, imho, is a scam and way to overall boost prices. I'd never pay an elevated price for a graded card, regardless of who grades it.

That said, the pic of this JB card looks legit. Also keep in mind that over the past few years, card companies have reissued (reprinted) rookie cards, etc.

2012 Reprint:
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1957 Original:
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Print date will/should be, on the back of the card.
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Overall, the card market isn't even a skeleton of what it was years ago.

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I read that the offset image can reduce the value of it, but overall the card is really nice and does appear to be original. The PSA label just throws me off. Fake grading for a real card? Has that ever been a thing?

Not in line with what your looking for but I have a lot of multiple rookies from 1986-1998
Favre, Montana, Rice etc. I look at Ebay see what they are going for on avg.
Than I throw them back in the closet and discover I'm still gonna have to go to work on Monday. Lol

Fast69Mach said:

I read that the offset image can reduce the value of it, but overall the card is really nice and does appear to be original. The PSA label just throws me off. Fake grading for a real card? Has that ever been a thing?

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Send the pic to PSA. Spend a couple hours searching the net.
Regarding fake grading...
Wanna buy some exclusive ocean front property in Arizona? lol.

Lambeau said:

Fact the card is off-center "professionally" degrades its value. But to the normal guy, who cares?

Card grading, imho, is a scam and way to overall boost prices. I'd never pay an elevated price for a graded card, regardless of who grades it.

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The normal, toss it in a box, guy might not care. The enthusiast will though. Grading also authenticates an item rather than just boosting a price because it doesn't always increase the value.

Imo that’s 100% a fake card / PSA auth

- number doesn’t come up in PSA’s system
- it’s not in the slab. All PSA cards are neatly done, not thrown together like that. I’ve never seen a PSA card like that


fake grading is 100% a thing, as stated to try and up ‘value’

I’d have card authenticated (places everywhere that do this) and go from there. Don’t get your hopes up, though. As said red flags everywhere

In the photo it looks like a basic toploader w/o a seal.

Fake.

Could be a real card that didn’t meet a minimum, specified by submitter, grade. The card looks in rough shape with the bad edges and terrible centering which would severely impact value(500-2000 based on a very brief look).

“Let’s begin by defining the term. ‘Minimum Grade’ means the lowest PSA grade you are willing to accept. That’s it. Nice and simple. If you submit a card for grading with a minimum grade of 8, and if the graders evaluate your card as an 8 or higher, it will be encapsulated in a PSA holder. If the graders evaluate your card to be less than an 8, it will not be encapsulated in a PSA holder.”

DiB14-SAFD said:

Could be a real card that didn’t meet a minimum, specified by submitter, grade. The card looks in rough shape with the bad edges and terrible centering which would severely impact value(500-2000 based on a very brief look).

“Let’s begin by defining the term. ‘Minimum Grade’ means the lowest PSA grade you are willing to accept. That’s it. Nice and simple. If you submit a card for grading with a minimum grade of 8, and if the graders evaluate your card as an 8 or higher, it will be encapsulated in a PSA holder. If the graders evaluate your card to be less than an 8, it will not be encapsulated in a PSA holder.”

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OK, I'll bite.
But why didn't their site acknowledge the cert number?

I "think" the card is real, but pics can be very "Smigiely".

DiB14-SAFD said:

Could be a real card that didn’t meet a minimum, specified by submitter, grade. The card looks in rough shape with the bad edges and terrible centering which would severely impact value(500-2000 based on a very brief look).

“Let’s begin by defining the term. ‘Minimum Grade’ means the lowest PSA grade you are willing to accept. That’s it. Nice and simple. If you submit a card for grading with a minimum grade of 8, and if the graders evaluate your card as an 8 or higher, it will be encapsulated in a PSA holder. If the graders evaluate your card to be less than an 8, it will not be encapsulated in a PSA holder.”

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This is the answer. 5 years ago my uncle died and i got his collection of 1000s of these cards. Beckett is the best "price guide" but ebay was best for real world value. That card is in rough shape. Psa would of put it in a sealed card holder when it was sent in for grading if it met criteria. When a card isnt valued at much or meet minimum grade they are sent back in the cheap sleeve like the pic.

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The cert number is my biggest concern. The overall condition of the card is good, even though some say it isn’t. The “Min” grade it has on it - I guess I didn’t see it as “Minimum grade”, guess I was hoping it was a high rating so didn’t consider it. I’ll have to contact someone to get it checked out for real, as like I said I know nothing of these things. Biggest problem is that nobody local does it, at least that I can find currently.

Lambeau said:

OK, I'll bite.
But why didn't their site acknowledge the cert number?

I "think" the card is real, but pics can be very "Smigiely".

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Not sure about that part. My theory is that since it didn’t meet a minimum grade to be slabbed and registered the number assigned is an internal number on PSA’s side.

DiB14-SAFD said:

Not sure about that part. My theory is that since it didn’t meet a minimum grade to be slabbed and registered the number assigned is an internal number on PSA’s side.

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Doesn't make sense.
Why would you pay to have a card judged only to be returned with a grade the owner, or anyone else, can't see?

OP needs to do some research on the cert.