• Welcome to SVTPerformance!

2011 GT 500 what upgraded pumps to go with for E-85

Discussion in 'SVT Shelby GT500' started by hotford, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. RedVenom48

    RedVenom48 Ghost Editor-In-Chief Premium Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,417
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2014
    Location:
    Arizona
    Well...shit. Looks like Im adding a KB Competition Shelby plug n play BAP and injectors when I decide to go E85. I just read up on it over at Kenne Bell and Im convinced.

    What Im still not clear on is the stock fuel systems ability to handle E85 from a corrosion standpoint. Can it be done safely for long term or will it require periodic replacement of parts e85 comes into contact with?
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2017
  2. builttodrive

    builttodrive Member Established Member

    Messages:
    450
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2014
    Location:
    Sioux Falls, SD
    My set up and info is in my signature. Both cars tuned by VMP. The 2011 was a VMP Gen 1, 2.3 TVS with 2.4, Vmp BAP, ID1000's, VMP 72mm Throttle body, JLT 123mm intake, and Off road H pipe. On E85 His car did 703 RWHP and somewhere around 698 RWTQ if I remember right and that was on 24 degrees timing.

    I have ran E85 for 3 years now and have not had any issues. I recently switched from my stock pumps to the DW300M pumps and looking into the tank everything looked perfect like new. Not sure if that says a whole lot but we can only get 91 in our area and from the trouble I have had on our local "91" I doubt that its truly 91. Since the switch to E85 My car runs so much stronger and no trouble since.
     
  3. SuperLX

    SuperLX Member Established Member

    Messages:
    351
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Location:
    Ajax,Ontario
    yes for stock thats fine BAP with stock pumps and bigger injectors will be sufficient for e85
    we are running a 3.4 with BAP and 100's and running lean(2011 shelby)
    also of note the 11-12 shelby has a single circuit relay for the pumps we kept blowing the fuse with the BAP
    07-10 + 13-14 Shelby have a dual circuit..
    don't know why for the 11-12 Ford went with the single setup
     
  4. deepblue13

    deepblue13 Active Member Established Member

    Messages:
    765
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2012
    Location:
    Texas
    Depends on what your overall end goal is. I knew I wanted to go with a higher hp build so I jumped straight to Fore return triple fuel hat system with 465lph pumps. Worked very well even when I was at 800hp.
     
  5. hotford

    hotford Member Established Member

    Messages:
    318
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Location:
    canada
    The 13-14 pumps are a lot taller than the 11-12 pumps and wont allow the fitment into the stock hat assembly.
     
  6. RedVenom48

    RedVenom48 Ghost Editor-In-Chief Premium Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,417
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2014
    Location:
    Arizona
    Isnt the Ford Racing Whipple fuel pump available separately?
     
  7. scotsam

    scotsam Member Established Member

    Messages:
    437
    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Location:
    Albrightsville, Pennsylvania, United States
    Gotcha. I haven't seen both side by side.
     
  8. RedVenom48

    RedVenom48 Ghost Editor-In-Chief Premium Member Established Member

    Messages:
    6,417
    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2014
    Location:
    Arizona
    Ive got an 11 and previously ran VMPs unit, but under the advice of a few here Ill be looking at KBs competition 21v booster with Bosch EV14 95# injectors. The biggest power adder I plan to run on this car might be the TVS 2650, but likely the 2.3 Trinity TVS.

    Do you think that the blown fuses were a result of your BAP at full power or just the 11-12 setup in general?
     
  9. Catmonkey

    Catmonkey I Void Warranties! Premium Member Established Member

    Messages:
    3,497
    Joined:
    May 20, 2011
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Isn't that why KB supplies a blade to use in the fuse position of 11-12s?
     
    VNMOUS1 likes this.
  10. builttodrive

    builttodrive Member Established Member

    Messages:
    450
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2014
    Location:
    Sioux Falls, SD
    VMP adds a larger fuse as well-40 amp if I remember right. I have an 07 with dual circuits as explained above and you swap in two larger fuses. I have never had an issue but I know on the first initial data log my cousin popped his larger fuse in his 2011. We got a new fuse and there was a tuning change and it was never a problem after that.
     
  11. SuperLX

    SuperLX Member Established Member

    Messages:
    351
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Location:
    Ajax,Ontario
    heard back from Walbro
    they said their 450lph unit drops in no mods needed.
     
  12. builttodrive

    builttodrive Member Established Member

    Messages:
    450
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2014
    Location:
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Are they saying this for 11-12 fuel hats? I have a Walbro 450 pump for another one of my projects and its a much larger pump than a stock 07 or DW300M pump.
     
  13. SuperLX

    SuperLX Member Established Member

    Messages:
    351
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2009
    Location:
    Ajax,Ontario
    you are correct so we decided to do the dw300m
    Walbro says it will fit but im not so sure myself
     
  14. jazz

    jazz Active Member Established Member

    Messages:
    329
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2014
    Location:
    Bay Area
    I have two brand new walbro 465s, if anyone needs them. Letme know
     
    HandBanana likes this.
  15. FORDMAN GT500

    FORDMAN GT500 Member Established Member

    Messages:
    533
    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Location:
    CT
    yes bolt in . even uses factory plug
     
  16. FORDMAN GT500

    FORDMAN GT500 Member Established Member

    Messages:
    533
    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Location:
    CT
    Wrong the DW300M fits in 11 and 12s like stock
     
  17. FORDMAN GT500

    FORDMAN GT500 Member Established Member

    Messages:
    533
    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Location:
    CT
    DW300M fit in my 11 hat perfect
     
  18. HandBanana

    HandBanana Well-Known Member Established Member

    Messages:
    2,419
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Location:
    Nashville TN
    An upgraded fuse, 40a, or a brass jumper will solve that problem.
     
  19. crunkz06

    crunkz06 Member Established Member

    Messages:
    230
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Location:
    va
    on my 2012 gt500 would it be better to run 56lb injectors , the dw300m's or leave the stock fuel pumps and use the VMP boost a pump?
     
  20. SirShaun

    SirShaun Well-Known Member Established Member

    Messages:
    1,392
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2014
    Location:
    Virginia
    Depends on what your trying to do? For E85 on a budget, you would want ID1000's at least, maybe even ID1300's. Plus, the DW300M pumps as they are approved for E85 usage. E85 is corrosive, in the sense it attracts water, and water will rust out a traditional fuel system.

    You need twice the flow, and need to make sure your pumps/injectors are compatible with E85 at the minimum.

    If your staying pump gas, you can probably get by with 56lb injectors, and a boost a pump.
     

Share This Page