2011 Mustang GT vs 2011 Camaro Quality

[GarageLogic]

As taken from: http://www.alldatadiy.com


2011 Chevrolet Camaro V8-6.2L Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles

TSB Number & Issue Date **** TSB Title
10432 JAN 11 ***Campaign - Flexplate Bolt Thread Engagement
TSB Number & Issue Date **** TSB Title
00-03-10-002F APR 11 ***Wheels - Chrome Wheel Staining/Pitting/Corrosion
03-08-48-006H APR 11 ***A/C - Window Defroster Contact/Tab Repair Information
06-00-89-031B MAR 11 ***Engine, A/T - Identification Information
10-08-50-003A MAR 11 ***Restraints - Driver/Passenger Seat Head Rest Information
99-08-51-007E MAR 11 ***Wheels/Tires - Refinishing Aluminum Wheels
11-00-90-001 MAR 11 ***Engine - GM dexos 1 and dexos 2(R) Oil Specifications
02-07-30-052G MAR 11 ***A/T - Fluid Oil Cooler Flush
99-08-51-001B MAR 11 ***Body - Paint-Less Dent Repair Recommendations
06-08-43-003C FEB 11 ***Glass/Body - Windshield Wiper Performance
10-06-01-007C FEB 11 ***Engine - Valve Lifter Tick Noise At Start Up
09-08-51-004A FEB 11 ***Body/Paint - Door And Quarter Panel Paint Appearance
09-09-40-001A FEB 11 ***Restraints - Seat Belt Warning Lamp On/Buckling Issues
11-08-49-001 JAN 11 ***Battery - Transport Mode On Battery Light Flashing
11-03-10-001 JAN 11 ***Tires/Wheels - 21 Inch Accessory Wheels Available
09-00-89-029F JAN 11 ***Interior/Locks - Key Cutting Procedure
01-08-42-001H JAN 11 ***Lighting - Exterior Lamp Condensation and Replacement
04-03-10-013E DEC 10 ***Drivetrain - Winter Driving Characteristics of RWD
05-08-46-004C DEC 10 ***OnStar(R) - Number Incorrect/Incorrectly Assigned
06-08-50-009F DEC 10 ***Restraints - Passenger Presence System Information
03-07-29-004G DEC 10 ***Manual Transmission - M/T Operating Characteristics
09-08-50-009B DEC 10 ***Interior - Noise From 6-Way Power Front Seats
05-03-07-009C DEC 10 ***Steering/Suspension - Wheel Alignment Specifications
09-06-03-004D DEC 10 ***Electrical - MIL ON/DTC's Set By Various Control Modules
10-06-04-015 DEC 10 ***Fuel - GM's Position on Use of E 15 in 2007 Newer M.Y.
07-08-49-020D DEC 10 ***Instruments - IPC Odometer Programming Reference Guide
09-08-44-015D NOV 10 ***Audio - Removing Display Screen Scratches and Scuffs
01-08-51-003B NOV 10 ***Body - Application of Anti-Corrosion Materials
04-06-04-054B NOV 10 ***Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage
08-07-30-035B NOV 10 ***A/T - Water Or Coolant Contamination Information
05-06-04-022G OCT 10 ***Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline (Canada)
10-08-66-001A OCT 10 ***Body - Trunk Latch Binds/Difficult to Open or Close
10-08-45-001B OCT 10 ***Electrical - Information For Electrical Ground Repair
05-09-40-002E OCT 10 ***Restraint System - Normal Safety Belt Locking Conditions
10-08-44-003B OCT 10 ***Audio - Buzz Noise When Using Bluetooth(R)
10-08-44-006 OCT 10 ***Navigation - Report Missing/Inaccurate Nav. Map Info
09-08-44-013C OCT 10 ***Audio System - USB/Multimedia Interface Information
00-08-48-005D SEP 10 ***Body - Vehicle Glass Distortion Information
04-08-50-006D SEP 10 ***Interior - Seat Cover Wrinkle/Crease/Burn Info
09-06-04-026C AUG 10 ***Engine/Transmission - Aftermarket Calibrations
10-08-98-002 AUG 10 ***Body - Drilling High Strength Steel Using CryoCobalt(R)
05-06-01-034L JUL 10 ***Engine - Oil Leaks From Rear Cover
10-03-16-001 JUL 10 ***TPMS System - Service And Re-Learning Sensor IDs
09-08-51-002A JUL 10 ***Body - Painting Accessory Ground Effects Package
03-00-89-008E JUL 10 ***Body - Metal Body Panel Corrosion Protection
06-08-51-005A JUN 10 ***Body - Hem Flange Sealer For Corrosion Protection
03-08-98-002B JUN 10 ***Body - Squeeze Type Resistance Spot Welding/Equipment
07-06-04-019D JUN 10 ***Electrical - Intermittent MIL/DTC P2138/Reduced Power
99-09-40-005F JUN 10 ***Restraints - Extender Availability For Seat Belt
02-08-42-001D JUN 10 ***Lighting - Headlamp Polycarbonate Lens Damage Prevention
10-07-30-002A JUN 10 ***A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Using (GDS)
00-03-10-006F MAY 10 ***Wheels/Tires - Tire Radial Force Variation (RFV)
04-06-01-029E APR 10 ***Vehicle - Engine Crankcase and Subsystems Flushing Info.
09-03-16-002A APR 10 ***Tire Pressure Monitor - TPM System Message/Service Tips
05-03-10-003F APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Low Tire/Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels
04-03-10-001F APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Tire Puncture Repair Procedures
08-03-10-006C APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Tire Slowly Goes Flat/Warning Light ON
05-03-10-020C APR 10 ***Wheels/Tires - Use of Nitrogen Gas in Tires
07-03-16-004C APR 10 ***Tire Pressure Monitor - TPM System Overview
10-08-110-001 MAR 10 ***Interior - Proper Use of Floor Mats
10-00-89-001 FEB 10 ***Vehicle - 2011 Model Year VIN Code changes
08-08-42-005B JUN 09 ***Lighting - Headlamp Replacement Information

2011 Ford Mustang V8-5.0L Recall and Technical Service Bulletin Titles

TSB Number & Issue Date **** TSB Title
11-3-37 MAR 11 ***Body Controls - Various Electrical Issues
11-3-31 MAR 11 ***Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC's P0300-P0308 Set
11-3-32 MAR 11 ***Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC's P050E/P061C/Hard Start
11-3-35 MAR 11 ***Engine Controls - Premature Oil Change Indication
11-3-18 MAR 11 ***M/T - Excessive Shift Effort In Cold Temperatures
10-21-3 NOV 10 ***Instruments - Fuel Gauge Drops From Half To 'E'
10-19-4 OCT 10 ***M/T - Clutch Pedal Remains On Floor On High RPM Shifts

 

[MTBSully]

Not really a fair comparison. The New Camaro has been out since June 09, whereas the 2011 GT has only been out since october 2010.

Plus,

11-3-37 MAR 11 ***Body Controls - Various Electrical Issues
11-3-32 MAR 11 ***Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC's P050E/P061C/Hard Start
11-3-18 MAR 11 ***M/T - Excessive Shift Effort In Cold Temperatures
10-19-4 OCT 10 ***M/T - Clutch Pedal Remains On Floor On High RPM Shifts

These issues seem to be pretty severe, while most of the camaro problems appear to be stupid little things like

10-08-110-001 MAR 10 ***Interior - Proper Use of Floor Mats

Just sayin.....

 

[Zinc03Cobra]

^^spoken like a true catfish owner.

 

[ESVEETEE]

10432 JAN 11 ***Campaign - Flexplate Bolt Thread Engagement
10-06-01-007C FEB 11 ***Engine - Valve Lifter Tick Noise At Start Up
03-07-29-004G DEC 10 ***Manual Transmission - M/T Operating Characteristics
09-06-03-004D DEC 10 ***Electrical - MIL ON/DTC's Set By Various Control Modules
10-08-45-001B OCT 10 ***Electrical - Information For Electrical Ground Repair
05-06-01-034L JUL 10 ***Engine - Oil Leaks From Rear Cover
07-06-04-019D JUN 10 ***Electrical - Intermittent MIL/DTC P2138/Reduced Power


These are not minor issues either. The camaro has just as many/more major issues, and an assload of minor ones.

 

[ESVEETEE]

I'd also like to point out that in the same time frame as the mustang has been out (15 months), these were all the TSBs for the camaro:


00-08-48-005D SEP 10 ***Body - Vehicle Glass Distortion Information
04-08-50-006D SEP 10 ***Interior - Seat Cover Wrinkle/Crease/Burn Info
09-06-04-026C AUG 10 ***Engine/Transmission - Aftermarket Calibrations
10-08-98-002 AUG 10 ***Body - Drilling High Strength Steel Using CryoCobalt(R)
05-06-01-034L JUL 10 ***Engine - Oil Leaks From Rear Cover
10-03-16-001 JUL 10 ***TPMS System - Service And Re-Learning Sensor IDs
09-08-51-002A JUL 10 ***Body - Painting Accessory Ground Effects Package
03-00-89-008E JUL 10 ***Body - Metal Body Panel Corrosion Protection
06-08-51-005A JUN 10 ***Body - Hem Flange Sealer For Corrosion Protection
03-08-98-002B JUN 10 ***Body - Squeeze Type Resistance Spot Welding/Equipment
07-06-04-019D JUN 10 ***Electrical - Intermittent MIL/DTC P2138/Reduced Power
99-09-40-005F JUN 10 ***Restraints - Extender Availability For Seat Belt
02-08-42-001D JUN 10 ***Lighting - Headlamp Polycarbonate Lens Damage Prevention
10-07-30-002A JUN 10 ***A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Using (GDS)
00-03-10-006F MAY 10 ***Wheels/Tires - Tire Radial Force Variation (RFV)
04-06-01-029E APR 10 ***Vehicle - Engine Crankcase and Subsystems Flushing Info.
09-03-16-002A APR 10 ***Tire Pressure Monitor - TPM System Message/Service Tips
05-03-10-003F APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Low Tire/Leaking Cast Aluminum Wheels
04-03-10-001F APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Tire Puncture Repair Procedures
08-03-10-006C APR 10 ***Tires/Wheels - Tire Slowly Goes Flat/Warning Light ON
05-03-10-020C APR 10 ***Wheels/Tires - Use of Nitrogen Gas in Tires
07-03-16-004C APR 10 ***Tire Pressure Monitor - TPM System Overview
10-08-110-001 MAR 10 ***Interior - Proper Use of Floor Mats
10-00-89-001 FEB 10 ***Vehicle - 2011 Model Year VIN Code changes
08-08-42-005B JUN 09 ***Lighting - Headlamp Replacement Information

 

[WireEater]

Not really a fair comparison. The New Camaro has been out since June 09, whereas the 2011 GT has only been out since october 2010.

Plus,

11-3-37 MAR 11 ***Body Controls - Various Electrical Issues
11-3-32 MAR 11 ***Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC's P050E/P061C/Hard Start
11-3-18 MAR 11 ***M/T - Excessive Shift Effort In Cold Temperatures
10-19-4 OCT 10 ***M/T - Clutch Pedal Remains On Floor On High RPM Shifts

These issues seem to be pretty severe, while most of the camaro problems appear to be stupid little things like

10-08-110-001 MAR 10 ***Interior - Proper Use of Floor Mats

Just sayin.....

That means they had an extra year to get their shit together but it seems like that in '10 and '11 they had even MORE problems.

 

[KILRSVT]

Some of those bulletins are just information but clearly the camaro does have more issues

 

[Way2QWK]

Not a GM fan by any means but as a former GM Technician, many of those TSB's are just BS info, (ex. Fuel detergent) that covers many models and have been out for years.

 

[Planter]

chevy sucks anyhow.

 

[mrlrd1]

You'll find those general information TSBs on ALL GM models. Like most manufacturers, Ford doesn't issue a million generic TSBs for every vehicle.

Furthermore, the number of TSBs issued for a vehicle says very little about it's quality. Clearly, you have very little understanding of the purpose behind a TSB.

 

[Camaro_94]

Who ****ing cares? Most of that isnt a big deal at all... But I forgot that the new 5.0 is the greatest ****ing car ever made... So carry on.