Didn't GM basically just disprove this?
2016 Camaro SS drops 223 lbs and runs 12.3 @ 116
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Didn't GM basically just disprove this?
That’s what I thought as well. Same thing with the BMW’s, I believe the 3 series are actually lighter than the previous gen.
By bringing their weight down to what a similar sized/comparable car in its class was already at?
however you slice it, they just took a car and cut 200+lbs off of it while still meeting safety standards. So it's possible if these companies want to do it.
Yeah but there seems to be a baseline that is continually increasing.
BUT GT350!!
Seriously though, as always, we are in the race for hp. Some companies, like Chrysler, have stopped messing around and just went full retard on the power, while others are doing no more than they have to to have the slight edge on the other manufacturers.
The difference between these two methods comes down to one thing; money. GM and Ford both know if they lose that price range market, they will suffer. So, we will just continue seeing this trend of going back and forth until the next fuel crisis or the gubment steps in and decides to put more restrictions on them.
I have decided that if I get out of this Mustang, I am going straight to the top of either performance, or performance luxury. So, I am either going to end up with a new CTS-V, GT-R, vette or viper. That way, I don't have to sit around and worry about who might inch me out by 20hp every year.
Seriously though, as always, we are in the race for hp. Some companies, like Chrysler, have stopped messing around and just went full retard on the power, while others are doing no more than they have to to have the slight edge on the other manufacturers.
The difference between these two methods comes down to one thing; money. GM and Ford both know if they lose that price range market, they will suffer. So, we will just continue seeing this trend of going back and forth until the next fuel crisis or the gubment steps in and decides to put more restrictions on them.
I have decided that if I get out of this Mustang, I am going straight to the top of either performance, or performance luxury. So, I am either going to end up with a new CTS-V, GT-R, vette or viper. That way, I don't have to sit around and worry about who might inch me out by 20hp every year.
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bingo. thought i was on ls1tech for a second. ill wait for the official tests, and not GMs hero run numbers they like to push.
the 10 speed auto comes in 17, along with a power bump. I'm actually more excited to see their answer to the GT350 which as already become the darling of the auto world. and see them beat 50K base and 65K loaded.
Yeah, I think the weight will go up over the next few years unless they develop another lite platform.
Rationalize it however you want, it lost weight. Let's get Dodge to follow suit:bash:
Safety requirements aside are the stock PP wheels not boat anchors? My friend has his stock 2015 cat back laying around and it is very heavy. I'm not saying the stock stuff has to be the same as the lightest aftermarket stuff but clearly to me there is 100lb that could be taken off stock with minimal increase in msrp. Maybe these items would affect long term durability but really doesn't have any safety drawbacks
yep, 32 lbs a wheel.
And we praise them for making it happen.
How long before the base V8 cars are 500hp? Although they'll probably be over 4000 lbs by then. This new 'Maro will definitely pull on stock 5.bros, not sure where the driver's race argument is coming from.
I'm a 5.bro and I'm not even mad. I'll happily admit that if I could've had a choice between a Mustang, Camaro or Challenger when buying my '11, I would've ended up in a Challenger. But for my price range, an '11-12 GT was my best bet. :shrug:
I think it's awesome of GM personally!
I think it's awesome of GM personally!
Holy hell!! You can get pretty cheap 19's and 20's at 19-24 lbs a wheel now. Good looking wheels too! 32 lbs is crazy
And the ZL1 is getting the Z06/CTSV 640hp motor. With the lighter setup, it's going to be interesting!
With Magnetic Control dampers, more power, less weight, GM I think has this round in the bag for performance. I wonder if you can see out of the damned things though, this was the killer for me when I test drove a 15 1LE and ZL1.
Some of you guys are really funny, they already yes DESTROY the s550 over a second in Willow Springs even with the current gen Camaro, with the new car, more power, better suspension and chassis, lighter car it will only get worst for Ford. Quit being jealous it is a good deal for that money.
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