Interesting comparison. Diesel for me. 
Pick your poison.
Pick your poison.
2018 5.0 F150 has 88hp/100tq Over 2015 5.0 F150...?
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Yeah....I'm not exactly sure how they optioned that XL STX....
My local high volume dealer has a similar XLT 5.0 truck stickering at $50,185 and their "no haggle" price is $42,499 or $41,749 financed through Ford.
http://www.simmons-rockwell.com/ford/bf18-121?p=13&vehicleModel=F150
And this is only months after the '18 have come out. Wait till fall when the '19's come out and the deals will get better.
I just can't wait to see if American Muscle's dyno findings hold true. That is a TON of gains over the 15-17 5.0 trucks.
Or do you think ford added the "dyno mode..." IIRC...when the '15 mustangs came out, their dyno #'s were pretty high...but their trap speeds didn't reflect the dyno power #'s. Turned out Ford had set the tune on kill when the computer saw the front wheels were static and the rear wheels moving...to create hero dyno #'s...
Maybe these F150's have the same strategy? Guess we'll see when people start running them on the dyno AND the track!
My local high volume dealer has a similar XLT 5.0 truck stickering at $50,185 and their "no haggle" price is $42,499 or $41,749 financed through Ford.
http://www.simmons-rockwell.com/ford/bf18-121?p=13&vehicleModel=F150
And this is only months after the '18 have come out. Wait till fall when the '19's come out and the deals will get better.
I just can't wait to see if American Muscle's dyno findings hold true. That is a TON of gains over the 15-17 5.0 trucks.
Or do you think ford added the "dyno mode..." IIRC...when the '15 mustangs came out, their dyno #'s were pretty high...but their trap speeds didn't reflect the dyno power #'s. Turned out Ford had set the tune on kill when the computer saw the front wheels were static and the rear wheels moving...to create hero dyno #'s...
Maybe these F150's have the same strategy? Guess we'll see when people start running them on the dyno AND the track!
Gearing has a huge impact on dyno results...comparing a 6-speed to a 10-speed is comparing apples to oranges.
The elusive 37 gallon tank? Very nice.
The elusive 37 gallon tank? Very nice.
True! I'd HOPE American Muscle would know how to minimize the differences between the two trucks...but who knows?
Its also interesting the power curve is exactly the same until 4000 rpm, then new 5.0 really gains. And now with all the gears...that topend charge can be put to good use!
I'm sure you've had seat time in all of them by now... Does the new 12:1 dual fuel 5.0+10sp feel like a completely different animal than the old 5.0+6sp combo?
Yes.
The 10-speed is awesome. You never feel like you're out of the powerband. I've been THOROUGHLY impressed.
I even thought about not taking my 2018 F-250 order that will be in next week, and going with an F-150 instead; but I'm 99% sure I'll just keep the Super Duty.
Interesting... If that's not a solid endorsement for the 2018 F150, I don't know what is!
I've been closely watching the improvements in the 6.2 gasser F250's as well. Fords effort to move the torque band of the gas truck to a more useable area, improved gearing in the TorqShift-G trans and what some people claim a major improvement in ride comfort make it a more viable option as a daily for someone like me who doesn't tow much.
Have you had any seat time in a 6.2/4.30 geared F250 and how it compares to a '18 F150? I know apples to oranges...but I don't think people realize how much of an improvement came to the 3/4 tons in 2017.
I've been really impressed with Fords efforts to step up the game!!
Although I'm slightly hesitant to purchase anything just yet. I need to see how they treat me concerning all the potential head gasket issues on the wifes RS...
I've been closely watching the improvements in the 6.2 gasser F250's as well. Fords effort to move the torque band of the gas truck to a more useable area, improved gearing in the TorqShift-G trans and what some people claim a major improvement in ride comfort make it a more viable option as a daily for someone like me who doesn't tow much.
Have you had any seat time in a 6.2/4.30 geared F250 and how it compares to a '18 F150? I know apples to oranges...but I don't think people realize how much of an improvement came to the 3/4 tons in 2017.
I've been really impressed with Fords efforts to step up the game!!
Although I'm slightly hesitant to purchase anything just yet. I need to see how they treat me concerning all the potential head gasket issues on the wifes RS...
$50K for only a F150 and cloth seats? Faaaaack no.
Next truck will be a '15-'17 Sierra 2500HD that I'm willing to pay $50k for...but I don't understand paying so much for the low level (capability wise) trucks. I understand they pack these things full of technology, but good god.
Next truck will be a '15-'17 Sierra 2500HD that I'm willing to pay $50k for...but I don't understand paying so much for the low level (capability wise) trucks. I understand they pack these things full of technology, but good god.
I've tossed that idea around as well. Just curious how DD'ing 100k miles of Houston traffic will treat the TVS setup.
Me too. Figured the Eco was gonna blow the 5.0 away. Thanks SVTP!
Can someone confirm this?
Exactly. My 2008 Lariat had a sticker price of 55k. If I configure a brand new F350 Lariat, crew cab longbed 4x4 diesel just like mine, and add all of the cool options that I would want, it comes out to 70k. 15k more for a 10 year newer truck that makes mine look like a Model T is a bargain IMO. They're expensive but they always have been.
Re: price..The big volume dealers around here have been discounting the hell out of the F150 (2017), incentives/discounts around 10-13K off many of them.
This. But I have been looking at 2018 F150's that are discounted 10K off MSRP right now but there are no incentives yet. I am looking to trade in my 2016 Edge on a 2018 F150 4X4 Supercrew. The incentives will come in 2018 hopefully early and I will be looking to get one. Dealers in Virginia and Maryland are showing these discounts now.
I hear yah and overall the 18 is the truck I’d want as well, too many changes, improvements...
Correct. That is why I am waiting for the right time to make the trade. It will come in 2018.
Just for fun...couple of street pulls I found.
This would be the quickest configuration, reg cab, short bed, 2wd, 3.55 gears.
(He claims 13.23 @103 completely stock)
This truck has 3.31 gears, but I don't know cab configuration or if it is 2wd or 4wd. Obviously slower than the 3.55, 2wd truck above.
And for shits and giggles...a loaded '17 Lariat supercrew Fx4 F250 with 6.2 gasser and 4.30 gears. I am extremely impressed with the way this truck moves out for its size and weight!!
This would be the quickest configuration, reg cab, short bed, 2wd, 3.55 gears.
(He claims 13.23 @103 completely stock)
This truck has 3.31 gears, but I don't know cab configuration or if it is 2wd or 4wd. Obviously slower than the 3.55, 2wd truck above.
And for shits and giggles...a loaded '17 Lariat supercrew Fx4 F250 with 6.2 gasser and 4.30 gears. I am extremely impressed with the way this truck moves out for its size and weight!!
https://www.koonsfordbaltimore.com/...a0e0aea7785924fbfef38e9.htm?searchDepth=8:108
I know Koons is the cheapest. But you definitely aren't getting cloth seats for 50
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I know Koons is the cheapest. But you definitely aren't getting cloth seats for 50
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Leather seats are like the only option I really care about. But you have to spend 50k+ to obtain that
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Katzkins and call it done, from $700 and up for factory style leather plus installation, and you can do it at home and save.
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